Singapore vs Europe MBA

optimistic...

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Posted Nov 23, 2022 18:29

I have an admit from NTU for an MBA, but I also want to live in Europe in the long run. Should I give up on the NTU offer and apply to schools in Germany(Mannheim) or Spain(ESADE, IE)?

I have very basic understanding of German and no knowledge of other European languages. I understand that this will be a hurdle in employability. Hence, I would like insights whether I would be better off pursuing an MBA in SIngapore or are there European schools where only English will get me jobs?

Thanks.

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Andy800

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Posted Nov 23, 2022 19:45

If you don't speak Spanish then I would not apply in Spain. I would go to either the UK (the obvious target) or the nordics/benelux as they have a good command of the English language.
As Duncan said if you don't speak the local language then go to an intensive language school and then if necessary do an MBA :)

[Edited by Andy800 on Nov 23, 2022]

If you don't speak Spanish then I would not apply in Spain. I would go to either the UK (the obvious target) or the nordics/benelux as they have a good command of the English language. <br>As Duncan said if you don't speak the local language then go to an intensive language school and then if necessary do an MBA :)

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optimistic...

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Posted Nov 24, 2022 08:41

Should I target mid-tiered European schools like ESSEC or Mannheim instead of NTU?
Is Singapore a smarter choice since I dont have extra languages in my repertoire?

Should I target mid-tiered European schools like ESSEC or Mannheim instead of NTU?<br>Is Singapore a smarter choice since I dont have extra languages in my repertoire?

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Andy800

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Posted Nov 24, 2022 10:33

Well, Singapore is a good option if you have no other language in your repertoire :) Afterwards, do you want to live there or not?

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Duncan

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Posted Nov 24, 2022 12:08

See:-
Best MBAs for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143
Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

[Edited by Duncan on Nov 24, 2022]

See:-<br>Best MBAs for international students' placement http://www.find-mba.com/board/41143 <div><br></div><div>Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713 </div>

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optimistic...

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Posted Nov 24, 2022 16:43

Well, Singapore is a good option if you have no other language in your repertoire :) Afterwards, do you want to live there or not?

I don't mind living in Singapore for maybe 5 years, but the long term target is still Europe. I am 25 and the high ranking held by NTU in Duncan's list for international mobility gives me hope that in some years I will be able to reach Europe.

Should I hold off on doing an MBA for 3-4 years and then apply for Europe or will the Singapore path also have opportunities for Europe later on?

[quote]Well, Singapore is a good option if you have no other language in your repertoire :) Afterwards, do you want to live there or not? [/quote]<br>I don't mind living in Singapore for maybe 5 years, but the long term target is still Europe. I am 25 and the high ranking held by NTU in Duncan's list for international mobility gives me hope that in some years I will be able to reach Europe.<br><br>Should I hold off on doing an MBA for 3-4 years and then apply for Europe or will the Singapore path also have opportunities for Europe later on?<br><br><br>

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Duncan

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Posted Nov 24, 2022 21:42

International mobility doesn't mean that NTU will give you global mobility: it means that NTU helps people from outside Singapore find work in Singapore. If you want to work in Europe after Singapore, take a European MBA in Singapore (Insead/EDHEC/ESSEC etc) and then start on French courses.

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Haris Rudi...

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Posted Nov 25, 2022 16:46

Well, Singapore is a good option if you have no other language in your repertoire :) Afterwards, do you want to live there or not?

I don't mind living in Singapore for maybe 5 years, but the long term target is still Europe. I am 25 and the high ranking held by NTU in Duncan's list for international mobility gives me hope that in some years I will be able to reach Europe.

Should I hold off on doing an MBA for 3-4 years and then apply for Europe or will the Singapore path also have opportunities for Europe later on?

I think NTU provides double degrees with European business schools.
here is what I found on their website.

Nanyang-St Gallen Double Masters – Nanyang MBA and Master of Arts in Strategy & International Management in 24 months in Singapore and St Gallen, Switzerland
Nanyang ESSEC Double Masters – Nanyang MBA and MSc in Management in 24 months in Singapore and France .
https://www.ntu.edu.sg/business/admissions/graduate-studies/nanyang-mba/double-masters

[quote][quote]Well, Singapore is a good option if you have no other language in your repertoire :) Afterwards, do you want to live there or not? [/quote]<br>I don't mind living in Singapore for maybe 5 years, but the long term target is still Europe. I am 25 and the high ranking held by NTU in Duncan's list for international mobility gives me hope that in some years I will be able to reach Europe.<br><br>Should I hold off on doing an MBA for 3-4 years and then apply for Europe or will the Singapore path also have opportunities for Europe later on?<br><br><br> [/quote]<br><br>I think NTU provides double degrees with European business schools. <br>here is what I found on their website. <br><br>
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</div><div>Nanyang-St Gallen Double Masters – Nanyang MBA and Master of Arts in Strategy &amp; International Management in 24 months in Singapore and St Gallen, Switzerland</div><br><div>Nanyang ESSEC Double Masters – Nanyang MBA and MSc in Management in 24 months in Singapore and France .</div><div><br>https://www.ntu.edu.sg/business/admissions/graduate-studies/nanyang-mba/double-masters</div><div>
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Duncan

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Posted Nov 26, 2022 13:02

Nice, but the other person's goal is to work in Europe. A degree taught in English won't help them much in France or German-speaking Switzerland. St Gallen is explicit about that: see my post -

Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

Nice, but the other person's goal is to work in Europe. A degree taught in English won't help them much in France or German-speaking Switzerland. St Gallen is explicit about that: see my post - 
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</div><div>Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713 
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Haris Rudi...

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Posted Nov 27, 2022 13:07

Nice, but the other person's goal is to work in Europe. A degree taught in English won't help them much in France or German-speaking Switzerland. St Gallen is explicit about that: see my post -

Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

well, that means doing MBA in Europe except UK and Ireland is pretty useless for non-EU citizen unless they have C1-C2 or native level of their native languages.

Reaching native level of foreign language is impossible at such short period of time.

[quote]Nice, but the other person's goal is to work in Europe. A degree taught in English won't help them much in France or German-speaking Switzerland. St Gallen is explicit about that: see my post - 
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</div><div>Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713 
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</div> [/quote]<br><br>well, that means doing MBA in Europe except UK and Ireland is pretty useless for non-EU citizen unless they have C1-C2 or native level of their native languages. <br><br>Reaching native level of foreign language is impossible at such short period of time. 

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Duncan

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Posted Nov 27, 2022 17:17

It's not useless, but it does reduce them to three options:
- Learn the business language before you start the MBA
- Return to your own country
- Have a long and uncertain job hunt as you compete with classmates who do speak the local language for the small pool of employers with lower-value back office roles that don't require customer interaction. For example, I have written about the 23% placement rate for international MBAs after the Copenhagen MBA: https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546

It's not useless, but it does reduce them to three options:<br>- Learn the business language before you start the MBA<br>- Return to your own country<br>- Have a long and uncertain job hunt as you compete with classmates who do speak the local language for the small pool of employers with lower-value back office roles that don't require customer interaction. For example, I have written about the 23% placement rate for international MBAs after the Copenhagen MBA: https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546 

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optimistic...

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Posted Nov 28, 2022 08:46

It's not useless, but it does reduce them to three options:
- Learn the business language before you start the MBA
- Return to your own country
- Have a long and uncertain job hunt as you compete with classmates who do speak the local language for the small pool of employers with lower-value back office roles that don't require customer interaction. For example, I have written about the 23% placement rate for international MBAs after the Copenhagen MBA: https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546

Would trying for Erasmus (Rotterdam) be a solution. It's not ranked as high as NTU but is in a country where English speakers can get jobs comparatively easily.

[quote]It's not useless, but it does reduce them to three options:<br>- Learn the business language before you start the MBA<br>- Return to your own country<br>- Have a long and uncertain job hunt as you compete with classmates who do speak the local language for the small pool of employers with lower-value back office roles that don't require customer interaction. For example, I have written about the 23% placement rate for international MBAs after the Copenhagen MBA: https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546  [/quote]<br><br>Would trying for Erasmus (Rotterdam) be a solution. It's not ranked as high as NTU but is in a country where English speakers can get jobs comparatively easily.

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