Studying in Munich - New European College?
Posted Mar 11, 2016 12:27
Posted Mar 16, 2016 09:23
That's exactly what I did but I still wouldn't get any answer from their side.
If any of you happen to know how it works... It would be pretty kind of you.
That's exactly what I did but I still wouldn't get any answer from their side.
If any of you happen to know how it works... It would be pretty kind of you.
Posted Mar 16, 2016 10:13
Posted Mar 18, 2016 14:59
ESMT's MBA program is rather competitive, certainly more competitive than that European College program you were looking at. I think the average GMAT tends to be 650+ and the average work experience tends to be in the six to seven year range.
Just read a comment from a current student of ESMT on how disappointed he is by the ESMT MBA. You can find it yourself as well. There is only thing about German MBAs especially for Non-EU students that it is mandatory to learn German if you want a good role post MBA. I have seen a guy becoming Asst Director post MBA graduating from Pforzheim while I also know a person woking as a UAT tester(her role pre-MBA as well) after her MBA from Mannheim. This itself tells the whole story. When in Rome do as the Romans do.
P.S. Just my personal opinion and self research about German MBAs. Use linkedin to find more data.
[Edited by Thesouthpaw on Mar 18, 2016]
Just read a comment from a current student of ESMT on how disappointed he is by the ESMT MBA. You can find it yourself as well. There is only thing about German MBAs especially for Non-EU students that it is mandatory to learn German if you want a good role post MBA. I have seen a guy becoming Asst Director post MBA graduating from Pforzheim while I also know a person woking as a UAT tester(her role pre-MBA as well) after her MBA from Mannheim. This itself tells the whole story. When in Rome do as the Romans do.
P.S. Just my personal opinion and self research about German MBAs. Use linkedin to find more data.
Posted Mar 18, 2016 20:39
Posted Mar 22, 2016 11:03
I personally don't speak german but I can definitely take some classes and try my best to learn as fast as possible. However, I just checked out forums for more information and I must admit opinions seem divided... Here are two discussions I found on the internet - http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/is-esmt-going-to-clean-up-again-like-last-year & http://gmatclub.com/forum/esmt-berlin-consider-or-not-50316.html
I don't really know what to think anymore... :(
I personally don't speak german but I can definitely take some classes and try my best to learn as fast as possible. However, I just checked out forums for more information and I must admit opinions seem divided... Here are two discussions I found on the internet - http://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/is-esmt-going-to-clean-up-again-like-last-year & http://gmatclub.com/forum/esmt-berlin-consider-or-not-50316.html
I don't really know what to think anymore... :(
Posted Apr 06, 2016 17:07
By the way, had my GMAT results and I got 690. It ain't what I was expecting but still is good I guess. What do you think?
By the way, had my GMAT results and I got 690. It ain't what I was expecting but still is good I guess. What do you think?
Posted Apr 06, 2016 23:36
Posted Apr 27, 2016 16:26
Sorry for the delay, wouldn't notice you gave me an answer.
Regarding the thread, I didn't see it was this old actually... things have most probably changed since then. You already told me about the german and I will definitely take some intensive classes to get the language as fast as possible. Will try and gather more information on the subject.
Again thank you very much!
Sorry for the delay, wouldn't notice you gave me an answer.
Regarding the thread, I didn't see it was this old actually... things have most probably changed since then. You already told me about the german and I will definitely take some intensive classes to get the language as fast as possible. Will try and gather more information on the subject.
Again thank you very much!
Posted May 02, 2016 11:16
1. New European College was founded last year and in order to offer university level courses and examinations in Germany you must be authorized by the Education Ministry in the federal state you are located in, Bavaria in our case, to operate. We received this authorization last July. We have an official English translation of the document and I am more than happy to send you a digital version of it.
2. Our academic cooperation with the International University of Applied Sciences of Bad Honnef(IUBH) was also ratified by the Ministry of Education in North Rhine-Westphalia. Without this the Bavarian Ministry of Education would not have authorized New European College.
3. Being just over a year old, probably the reason we are not yet well known, we have 120 students (30+ nationalities) and a core faculty of 25. (We have a limit on German students - 25% - as we want to maintain a truly international environment.)
4. IUBH not only has an outstanding reputation for Aviation Management and Hospitality Management, but was ranked no.1 private University of Applied Sciences for Business Administration in 2014 by the Centre for Higher Education and Development(CHE), a non-profit think tank focused on education. All accolades of IUBH can be found at http://www.iubh.de/en/international-students/rankings-certifications.php
5. In Germany all academic degrees are protected by law and regardless if you receive the degree from a state scientific university, state university of applied sciences, a private university or a private university of applied sciences they hold the same legal academic value. The only exception being that only scientific universities (private or state) are allowed to offer doctorate programs and award the academic degree of a doctor in the respective faculty.
6. One of the main legal differences in Germany between state and private tertiary academic institutions is that state institutions by law are generally not allowed to charge tuition fees while private institutions are allowed to.
7. Yes, we are a for profit organization, and I believe that a business school should be. In order to have a competitive stand you must offer an excellent business education taught by outstanding lecturers (experienced industry professionals with the academic credentials) that are able to combine academic theory with the real business world. Don’t forget we are not only competing with the other private business schools, but also with state universities that have a very good reputation and are free of tuition costs.
Should you have any further questions concerning New European College or the German academic system and landscape (regardless if you decide to study with us or not, I am always happy to assist), please do not hesitate to contact me.
Best Regards from sunny Munich,
Sascha Liebhardt
1. New European College was founded last year and in order to offer university level courses and examinations in Germany you must be authorized by the Education Ministry in the federal state you are located in, Bavaria in our case, to operate. We received this authorization last July. We have an official English translation of the document and I am more than happy to send you a digital version of it.
2. Our academic cooperation with the International University of Applied Sciences of Bad Honnef(IUBH) was also ratified by the Ministry of Education in North Rhine-Westphalia. Without this the Bavarian Ministry of Education would not have authorized New European College.
3. Being just over a year old, probably the reason we are not yet well known, we have 120 students (30+ nationalities) and a core faculty of 25. (We have a limit on German students - 25% - as we want to maintain a truly international environment.)
4. IUBH not only has an outstanding reputation for Aviation Management and Hospitality Management, but was ranked no.1 private University of Applied Sciences for Business Administration in 2014 by the Centre for Higher Education and Development(CHE), a non-profit think tank focused on education. All accolades of IUBH can be found at http://www.iubh.de/en/international-students/rankings-certifications.php
5. In Germany all academic degrees are protected by law and regardless if you receive the degree from a state scientific university, state university of applied sciences, a private university or a private university of applied sciences they hold the same legal academic value. The only exception being that only scientific universities (private or state) are allowed to offer doctorate programs and award the academic degree of a doctor in the respective faculty.
6. One of the main legal differences in Germany between state and private tertiary academic institutions is that state institutions by law are generally not allowed to charge tuition fees while private institutions are allowed to.
7. Yes, we are a for profit organization, and I believe that a business school should be. In order to have a competitive stand you must offer an excellent business education taught by outstanding lecturers (experienced industry professionals with the academic credentials) that are able to combine academic theory with the real business world. Don’t forget we are not only competing with the other private business schools, but also with state universities that have a very good reputation and are free of tuition costs.
Should you have any further questions concerning New European College or the German academic system and landscape (regardless if you decide to study with us or not, I am always happy to assist), please do not hesitate to contact me.
Best Regards from sunny Munich,
Sascha Liebhardt
Posted May 02, 2016 19:11
By the way, what sort of authorised status does the NEC have? I can't see any reference to your business in the state government website: https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3Abayern.de+%22New+European+College%22
Obviously you are not one of the staatlich anerkannten Hochschulen, or you would not use the word "college".
[Edited by Duncan on May 02, 2016]
By the way, what sort of authorised status does the NEC have? I can't see any reference to your business in the state government website: https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site%3Abayern.de+%22New+European+College%22
Obviously you are not one of the staatlich anerkannten Hochschulen, or you would not use the word "college".
Posted May 02, 2016 19:33
Posted May 02, 2016 20:48
Posted May 03, 2016 14:22
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
Posted May 03, 2016 14:22
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
Posted May 03, 2016 14:22
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
Posted May 03, 2016 14:22
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
I am chartered accountant from India with 3 yrs full time internship from Grant thornton international .(Big 5 firm)
Can it be compared good with OTAGO business school -MBA programme
Posted May 03, 2016 21:59
Posted May 04, 2016 15:51
Posted May 06, 2016 11:32
Thank you very much for taking time to respond personally, I really appreciate it!
I believe the explanations are quite clear and I thank you for that.
However, it would be very useful if you could respond to the last questions Duncan posted, as I would be interested in having your feedback on those points too. (status, core faculty, etc.)
Regards,
Thank you very much for taking time to respond personally, I really appreciate it!
I believe the explanations are quite clear and I thank you for that.
However, it would be very useful if you could respond to the last questions Duncan posted, as I would be interested in having your feedback on those points too. (status, core faculty, etc.)
Regards,
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