More U.S. students go abroad for their MBAs

Post MBA

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Posted Jun 28, 2007 19:38

Thoughts on this article?

More U.S. students go abroad for their MBAs
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/college/2007-06-06-euro-mbas-usat_N.htm#uslPageReturn

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andrew_lon...

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Posted Jun 28, 2007 20:23

Thoughts on this article?

More U.S. students go abroad for their MBAs
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/college/2007-06-06-euro-mbas-usat_N.htm#uslPageReturn

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html? Click on POST MBA for more biographical info.

that trend is developing in Europe as well. I am passing on LSE to pursue MBA at Hong Kong UST.

<blockquote>Thoughts on this article?

More U.S. students go abroad for their MBAs
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/college/2007-06-06-euro-mbas-usat_N.htm#uslPageReturn

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html? Click on POST MBA for more biographical info.

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that trend is developing in Europe as well. I am passing on LSE to pursue MBA at Hong Kong UST.

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juanito

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Posted Jun 29, 2007 13:57

I think in Europe this is not at all a new trend. For US students it's different, because traditionally they were very focussed on their home market, studywise as well as for their job research. So here these are surpsising news.

Europeans tend to integrate more international experiences than US students, they try to add work experiences in other countries as a plus on their CV, speak more foreign languages etc. Now with the ongoing growing together of the European Union this tendancy even increased in the last years.

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FMartin

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Posted Jun 29, 2007 15:41

I totally agree with Juanito. Asian MBAs are still in nappies.

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Globetrave...

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Posted Jun 29, 2007 16:09

I totally agree with Juanito. Asian MBAs are still in nappies.

you say that based on what? faculty, facilities, quality of students?

Care to back your false statement?

<blockquote>I totally agree with Juanito. Asian MBAs are still in nappies.</blockquote>

you say that based on what? faculty, facilities, quality of students?

Care to back your false statement?

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FMartin

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Posted Jun 29, 2007 20:06

Based mainly on two relevant aspects: internationalism (student and faculty), and global recognition. In terms of job market (outside Asia), studying in a European Business School you will be many steps ahead from someone who studied in Asia. An Asian MBA is only worthwhile if you are thinking in working in Asia, but worldwide is not very impressive.

I believe that Asian Business School are improving but still far away from the best Business School. Remember that internationalism is a very important point in the learning process and unfortunately Asian MBAs are still only attracting Asians. Just look at the numbers !!

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Globetrave...

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Posted Jun 29, 2007 20:42

Based mainly on two relevant aspects: internationalism (student and faculty), and global recognition. In terms of job market (outside Asia), studying in a European Business School you will be many steps ahead from someone who studied in Asia. An Asian MBA is only worthwhile if you are thinking in working in Asia, but worldwide is not very impressive.

I believe that Asian Business School are improving but still far away from the best Business School. Remember that internationalism is a very important point in the learning process and unfortunately Asian MBAs are still only attracting Asians. Just look at the numbers !!

Global recognition I agree with you. Asian B-schools are relatively new, and as Asia grows, they will as well. Certainly an American or European is not going for an MBA in Asia to hurry back to the US/EU after graduation. They are intelligent enough to stay and capitalize on opportunities developing in Asia.

"internationalism" as you called it, I totally disagree!

Hong Kong UST has been ranked #1 IN INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE CATEGORY FOR 5 YEARS RUNNING by Financial Times.

http://mba.ust.hk/ftmba/whyHKUST/international.html

<blockquote>Based mainly on two relevant aspects: internationalism (student and faculty), and global recognition. In terms of job market (outside Asia), studying in a European Business School you will be many steps ahead from someone who studied in Asia. An Asian MBA is only worthwhile if you are thinking in working in Asia, but worldwide is not very impressive.

I believe that Asian Business School are improving but still far away from the best Business School. Remember that internationalism is a very important point in the learning process and unfortunately Asian MBAs are still only attracting Asians. Just look at the numbers !!</blockquote>

Global recognition I agree with you. Asian B-schools are relatively new, and as Asia grows, they will as well. Certainly an American or European is not going for an MBA in Asia to hurry back to the US/EU after graduation. They are intelligent enough to stay and capitalize on opportunities developing in Asia.

"internationalism" as you called it, I totally disagree!

Hong Kong UST has been ranked #1 IN INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE CATEGORY FOR 5 YEARS RUNNING by Financial Times.

http://mba.ust.hk/ftmba/whyHKUST/international.html

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FMartin

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Posted Jun 30, 2007 00:01

The link you sent me, just confirm what I said. It says that HKUST MBA attracts students from outside Hong Kong, representing 20 nationalities. Just this number is not too impressive (comparing with European Business Schools which normally attract student from 60 different nationalities). Moreover, I wonder, how many of these 20 different nationalities are from outside of Asia.

I agree that Asia is growing and if you want to work there it is highly recommend to study there. I am just saying that thinking globally the best Business Schools today are in Europe. For instance, I believe that American Business Schools suffer the problem of internationalism in the student body (besides the problem of lack of work experience) as well. However, they enjoy the biggest recognition worldwide.

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juanito

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Posted Jul 02, 2007 13:53

I am just saying that thinking globally the best Business Schools today are in Europe. For instance, I believe that American Business Schools suffer the problem of internationalism in the student body (besides the problem of lack of work experience) as well. However, they enjoy the biggest recognition worldwide.

So best Business schools are in Europe, but it is still a better idea to study in the States, since US schools enjoy the biggest recognition? never trust a book by its cover...

question for globetraveler: since you are somehow involved with HKUST, I'm sure you can give us more detailed information about which 20 nationalities outside HK are represented in the classes? That would be heplful.

<blockquote> I am just saying that thinking globally the best Business Schools today are in Europe. For instance, I believe that American Business Schools suffer the problem of internationalism in the student body (besides the problem of lack of work experience) as well. However, they enjoy the biggest recognition worldwide.
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So best Business schools are in Europe, but it is still a better idea to study in the States, since US schools enjoy the biggest recognition? never trust a book by its cover...

question for globetraveler: since you are somehow involved with HKUST, I'm sure you can give us more detailed information about which 20 nationalities outside HK are represented in the classes? That would be heplful.

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Globetrave...

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Posted Jul 02, 2007 14:54

I am just saying that thinking globally the best Business Schools today are in Europe. For instance, I believe that American Business Schools suffer the problem of internationalism in the student body (besides the problem of lack of work experience) as well. However, they enjoy the biggest recognition worldwide.

So best Business schools are in Europe, but it is still a better idea to study in the States, since US schools enjoy the biggest recognition? never trust a book by its cover...

question for globetraveler: since you are somehow involved with HKUST, I'm sure you can give us more detailed information about which 20 nationalities outside HK are represented in the classes? That would be heplful.

I would have to disagree with the statment that best B-schools are in Europe. top 10, maybe even 15 schools, are in the US, with LBS being the only one in the same league.

As for HK UST I do not have that information. It must vary widely from year to year as they take in as many exchange students, as there are in the HK UST MBA itself.

<blockquote><blockquote> I am just saying that thinking globally the best Business Schools today are in Europe. For instance, I believe that American Business Schools suffer the problem of internationalism in the student body (besides the problem of lack of work experience) as well. However, they enjoy the biggest recognition worldwide.
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So best Business schools are in Europe, but it is still a better idea to study in the States, since US schools enjoy the biggest recognition? never trust a book by its cover...

question for globetraveler: since you are somehow involved with HKUST, I'm sure you can give us more detailed information about which 20 nationalities outside HK are represented in the classes? That would be heplful.</blockquote>

I would have to disagree with the statment that best B-schools are in Europe. top 10, maybe even 15 schools, are in the US, with LBS being the only one in the same league.

As for HK UST I do not have that information. It must vary widely from year to year as they take in as many exchange students, as there are in the HK UST MBA itself.

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m.gabriel

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Posted Jul 09, 2007 19:41

Interesting Topic...what is everyones view on MBA'S from International Universities and the Validity they have in the U.S

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Post MBA

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Posted Jul 26, 2007 16:00

In my experience Americans view an MBA outside of the US as less valid. The program must have very strong ties to the US (ex. Professors from US schools) to be considered as valid as one in the US.

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html?? Click on POST MBA for more biographical info.

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