Selection of B Schools

Bulla

20 9

Posted Apr 09, 2020 13:35

I have got offer letter from Carleton(MBA in BA), Ryerson (MBA MTI in Data Security) and Brock(MBA). I'm waiting for offers from Concordia, uo Saskatchewan and Memorial University of NewFoundland.

I have 8+ years of experience in one of the leading IT firm in India, mostly in technical department. After my MBA I wish to do a job in Canada and plan for PR, however quality of education and good placement is my first priority .

Could you please let me know the best school for me among the schools I have mentioned. I'm also looking for schools with low tuition fee due to poor economic conditional as a consequence of COVID-19 outbreak.

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Inactive User

266 92

Posted Apr 10, 2020 14:00

I have got offer letter from Carleton(MBA in BA), Ryerson (MBA MTI in Data Security) and Brock(MBA). I'm waiting for offers from Concordia, uo Saskatchewan and Memorial University of NewFoundland.

I have 8+ years of experience in one of the leading IT firm in India, mostly in technical department. After my MBA I wish to do a job in Canada and plan for PR, however quality of education and good placement is my first priority .

Could you please let me know the best school for me among the schools I have mentioned. I'm also looking for schools with low tuition fee due to poor economic conditional as a consequence of COVID-19 outbreak.

Ryerson looks like your best choice given your focus on "Data Security". Information security is one of the hottest fields right now in Canada. I don't even think you need an MBA if you want to stay on the technical side. An MBA is for you if you want improve your general management skills - Ryerson's MBA will probably limit you to a few electives on data security. If you want to get into Data Security there are more specialized and cheaper options (e.g. a master of science in computer science or information systems). If you already have work experience in that field, you might not need any degree - just apply for immigration and you will likely get a data security job somewhere paying not too far from what MBA grads get - in Canada the top MBA programs have a median base salary of C$80-85K, which is the base salary of "manager" positions in the big banks. Experienced data security guys get much more than that.

[quote]I have got offer letter from Carleton(MBA in BA), Ryerson (MBA MTI in Data Security) and Brock(MBA). I'm waiting for offers from Concordia, uo Saskatchewan and Memorial University of NewFoundland.

I have 8+ years of experience in one of the leading IT firm in India, mostly in technical department. After my MBA I wish to do a job in Canada and plan for PR, however quality of education and good placement is my first priority .

Could you please let me know the best school for me among the schools I have mentioned. I'm also looking for schools with low tuition fee due to poor economic conditional as a consequence of COVID-19 outbreak.[/quote]

Ryerson looks like your best choice given your focus on "Data Security". Information security is one of the hottest fields right now in Canada. I don't even think you need an MBA if you want to stay on the technical side. An MBA is for you if you want improve your general management skills - Ryerson's MBA will probably limit you to a few electives on data security. If you want to get into Data Security there are more specialized and cheaper options (e.g. a master of science in computer science or information systems). If you already have work experience in that field, you might not need any degree - just apply for immigration and you will likely get a data security job somewhere paying not too far from what MBA grads get - in Canada the top MBA programs have a median base salary of C$80-85K, which is the base salary of "manager" positions in the big banks. Experienced data security guys get much more than that.

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Bulla

20 9

Posted Apr 10, 2020 18:11

Thanks a lot SmartCanada for helping me.
I have already enrolled myself in express entry pool but did not get ITA.On the other hand I have an aim to do my masters abroad, hence I took the opportunity to study in Canada.
I second your thought of doing a MS in Data Security or similar, even at times I thought of that. I have consulted with a few study abroad experts and they have mentioned that as I have 8+ years of study gap getting a study permit for MSCor MS would be most unlikely.However that is not the only reason behind my decision.I have noticed that the technology is ever evolving and there is no end of it. If I learn AWS today I won’t get hired by the company which uses Azure or Google Cloud or Oracle Cloud.Moreover I need to keep on learning new technology to its bottom in order to stay relevant.
Hence I opted for a managerial course with a strong flavour of tech study.Till human beings exist on the earth management role will be relevant.My approach is to know a technology to the bottom and to know the ABC of new upcoming technology so that I can handle a team which is working on that technology.

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Inactive User

266 92

Posted Apr 10, 2020 18:42

Your goals seem to be very well thought out and realistic and very achievable in my opinion. I think you would fit a product owner or product manager role - there are plenty of those jobs available in Toronto. Best of luck to you in Canada! I personally love Toronto and am glad I moved here from the US.

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Bulla

20 9

Posted Apr 14, 2020 13:31

Thanks a lot smartcanada for your help.

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Posted May 20, 2020 15:04

Thanks a lot smartcanada for your help.

Hey Smartcanada , I also have same plans as that of Bulla for fall 2021-1. 8 yrs IT experience in MNC2. Looking for Management course (either MBA or Masters) no marketing or finance3. Searched for Executive MBA and top business schools but they are too costly or with duration less then 2 years..hence unable to find suitable course.4. I also have EE but CRS is too low hence wishing to study in Canada and then apply for PR.5. Looking for 2 yrs program ,as this will give me 3 yr PGWP which can help me in getting an ITA later.6. I have 1 yr old baby,hence would not prefer classroom programs, rather online ones or just weekend classes.But the issue with online is they might not be eligible for PGWP.
Any programs/courses that you can suggest me based on above requests would be very greatful.

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[quote]Thanks a lot smartcanada for your help. [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Hey Smartcanada , I also have same plans as that of Bulla  for fall 2021-</div><div>1. 8 yrs IT experience in MNC</div><div>2. Looking for Management course (either MBA or Masters) no marketing or finance</div><div>3. Searched for Executive MBA and top business schools but they are too costly or with duration less then 2 years..hence unable to find suitable course.</div><div>4. I also have EE but CRS is too low hence wishing to study in Canada and then apply for PR.</div><div>5. Looking for 2 yrs program ,as this will give me 3 yr PGWP which can help me in getting an ITA later.</div><div>6. I have 1 yr old baby,hence would not prefer classroom programs, rather online ones or just weekend classes.But the issue with online is they might not be eligible for PGWP.</div><div><br></div><div>Any programs/courses that you can suggest me based on above requests would be very greatful.:slightly-smiling-face:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

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Inactive User

266 92

Posted May 20, 2020 19:11

Any programs/courses that you can suggest me based on above requests would be very greatful.

[/quote]<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Any programs/courses that you can suggest me based on above requests would be very greatful.:slightly-smiling-face:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Yes, to get that work permit you would need to take your degree in Canada and not online.  My advice to you would be to try to get into the best program you can get into (check the MBA rankings for that) and preferably in a big city so that your spouse (if you have one) can work full-time and offset your expenses.  Spouses of foreign students are allowed to work in Canada.  That should help cover your living expenses.  </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Canadian programs will connect you to some local banks to finance your tuition or you can look for your own financing through lenders like Prodigy finance or something similar that won't require a local co-signer.    </div><div><br></div><div>If you can, try getting a GMAT >700 as that will boost your scholarship chances.  </div><div><br></div><div>Lastly, you can also look at non-MBA cheaper 1 year programs (e.g. analytics) as I know people are able to get PR within that 1 year period.  Of course, that will be more stressful but can be an option.  </div><div><br></div><div>Best of luck to you!</div>

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Posted May 22, 2020 12:28

Any programs/courses that you can suggest me based on above requests would be very greatful.

Yes, to get that work permit you would need to take your degree in Canada and not online. My advice to you would be to try to get into the best program you can get into (check the MBA rankings for that) and preferably in a big city so that your spouse (if you have one) can work full-time and offset your expenses. Spouses of foreign students are allowed to work in Canada. That should help cover your living expenses.

Canadian programs will connect you to some local banks to finance your tuition or you can look for your own financing through lenders like Prodigy finance or something similar that won't require a local co-signer.
If you can, try getting a GMAT >700 as that will boost your scholarship chances.
Lastly, you can also look at non-MBA cheaper 1 year programs (e.g. analytics) as I know people are able to get PR within that 1 year period. Of course, that will be more stressful but can be an option.
Best of luck to you!
Thanks Smart Canada for the suggestion. And also i am not looking for complete online courses as i know PGWP cannot be given for online courses, but I am wondering how is the case for blended programs- few classes on weekends and few online. Are these programs eligible for PGWP?
I am still finding a suitable course for Fall 2021 and targeting Toronto,BC and Alberta. Not Quebec as i don't know French so job opportunities post course completion might be less.

[quote][/quote]<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Any programs/courses that you can suggest me based on above requests would be very greatful.:slightly-smiling-face:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Yes, to get that work permit you would need to take your degree in Canada and not online.  My advice to you would be to try to get into the best program you can get into (check the MBA rankings for that) and preferably in a big city so that your spouse (if you have one) can work full-time and offset your expenses.  Spouses of foreign students are allowed to work in Canada.  That should help cover your living expenses.  </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Canadian programs will connect you to some local banks to finance your tuition or you can look for your own financing through lenders like Prodigy finance or something similar that won't require a local co-signer.    </div><div><br></div><div>If you can, try getting a GMAT >700 as that will boost your scholarship chances.  </div><div><br></div><div>Lastly, you can also look at non-MBA cheaper 1 year programs (e.g. analytics) as I know people are able to get PR within that 1 year period.  Of course, that will be more stressful but can be an option.  </div><div><br></div><div>Best of luck to you!</div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Thanks Smart Canada for the suggestion. And also i am not looking for complete online courses as i know PGWP cannot be given for online courses, but I am wondering how is the case for blended programs- few classes on weekends and few online. Are these programs eligible for PGWP?</div><div><br></div><div> I am still finding a suitable course for Fall 2021 and targeting Toronto,BC and Alberta. </div><div>Not Quebec as i don't know French so job opportunities post course completion might be less.</div><div><br></div>

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Inactive User

266 92

Posted May 22, 2020 13:25

For the visa question, I think it is best to contact the specific program you are applying to for confirmation, but I doubt hybrid programs grant student visas as their target market are locals.

Take note that Canadians, in general, are very regional. People in Ontario (even well educated people) have no clue about universities in other provinces save for a few. So you need to consider where you want to live long term and consider the job market in that location. You can also take a risk in taking an MBA in one province (e.g. Alberta) and then finding employment in another (e.g. Ontario), but I would only take that risk if I received some sort of substantial scholarship or was studying at an ultra-cheap MBA program like Memorial Newfoundland (a good university but it is literally in the middle of nowhere).

I work for one of the "prestigious" employers in Canada and I told 2 of my co-workers (graduated from Ivey and Rotman) recently that my son is considering studying undergrad at UBC (top ranked BComm program). The reaction I got was "meh" and all they know about UBC is it is a school in British Columbia, that's it.

Research the employment prospects in each of the Canadian cities and pick one or two target cities. Study in that city if at all possible.

<div></div><div><br></div><div>For the visa question, I think it is best to contact the specific program you are applying to for confirmation, but I doubt hybrid programs grant student visas as their target market are locals.  </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Take note that Canadians, in general, are very regional.  People in Ontario (even well educated people) have no clue about universities in other provinces save for a few.  So you need to consider where you want to live long term and consider the job market in that location.  You can also take a risk in taking an MBA in one province (e.g. Alberta) and then finding employment in another (e.g. Ontario), but I would only take that risk if I received some sort of substantial scholarship or was studying at an ultra-cheap MBA program like Memorial Newfoundland (a good university but it is literally in the middle of nowhere).  </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I work for one of the "prestigious" employers in Canada and I told 2 of my co-workers (graduated from Ivey and Rotman) recently that my son is considering studying undergrad at UBC (top ranked BComm program).  The reaction I got was "meh" and all they know about UBC is it is a school in British Columbia, that's it. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Research the employment prospects in each of the Canadian cities and pick one or two target cities.  Study in that city if at all possible.  </div>

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Posted May 22, 2020 13:55

For the visa question, I think it is best to contact the specific program you are applying to for confirmation, but I doubt hybrid programs grant student visas as their target market are locals.

Take note that Canadians, in general, are very regional. People in Ontario (even well educated people) have no clue about universities in other provinces save for a few. So you need to consider where you want to live long term and consider the job market in that location. You can also take a risk in taking an MBA in one province (e.g. Alberta) and then finding employment in another (e.g. Ontario), but I would only take that risk if I received some sort of substantial scholarship or was studying at an ultra-cheap MBA program like Memorial Newfoundland (a good university but it is literally in the middle of nowhere).

I work for one of the "prestigious" employers in Canada and I told 2 of my co-workers (graduated from Ivey and Rotman) recently that my son is considering studying undergrad at UBC (top ranked BComm program). The reaction I got was "meh" and all they know about UBC is it is a school in British Columbia, that's it.

Research the employment prospects in each of the Canadian cities and pick one or two target cities. Study in that city if at all possible.

@smartcanada Thanks a lot...that was really good piece of information. I will consider all the above points while making the course selection for sure.

[quote]<div></div><div><br></div><div>For the visa question, I think it is best to contact the specific program you are applying to for confirmation, but I doubt hybrid programs grant student visas as their target market are locals.  </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Take note that Canadians, in general, are very regional.  People in Ontario (even well educated people) have no clue about universities in other provinces save for a few.  So you need to consider where you want to live long term and consider the job market in that location.  You can also take a risk in taking an MBA in one province (e.g. Alberta) and then finding employment in another (e.g. Ontario), but I would only take that risk if I received some sort of substantial scholarship or was studying at an ultra-cheap MBA program like Memorial Newfoundland (a good university but it is literally in the middle of nowhere).  </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I work for one of the "prestigious" employers in Canada and I told 2 of my co-workers (graduated from Ivey and Rotman) recently that my son is considering studying undergrad at UBC (top ranked BComm program).  The reaction I got was "meh" and all they know about UBC is it is a school in British Columbia, that's it. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Research the employment prospects in each of the Canadian cities and pick one or two target cities.  Study in that city if at all possible.  </div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>@smartcanada Thanks a lot...that was really good piece of information. I will consider all the above points while making the course selection for sure.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

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Posted May 28, 2020 02:26

Any programs/courses that you can suggest me based on above requests would be very greatful.

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1 2

Posted May 28, 2020 02:26

I have got offer letter from Carleton(MBA in BA), Ryerson (MBA MTI in Data Security) and Brock(MBA). I'm waiting for offers from Concordia, uo Saskatchewan and Memorial University of NewFoundland.

I have 8+ years of experience in one of the leading IT firm in India, mostly in technical department. After my MBA I wish to do a job in Canada and plan for PR, however quality of education and good placement is my first priority .

Could you please let me know the best school for me among the schools I have mentioned. I'm also looking for schools with low tuition fee due to poor economic conditional as a consequence of COVID-19 outbreak.

Ryerson looks like your best choice given your focus on "Data Security". Information security is one of the hottest fields right now in Canada. I don't even think you need an MBA if you want to stay on the technical side. An MBA is for you if you want improve your general management skills - Ryerson's MBA will probably limit you to a few electives on data security. If you want to get into Data Security there are more specialized and cheaper options (e.g. a master of science in computer science or information systems). If you already have work experience in that field, you might not need any degree - just apply for immigration and you will likely get a data security job somewhere paying not too far from what MBA grads get - in Canada the top MBA programs have a median base salary of C$80-85K, which is the base salary of "manager" positions in the big banks. Experienced data security guys get much more than that.

[quote][quote]I have got offer letter from Carleton(MBA in BA), Ryerson (MBA MTI in Data Security) and Brock(MBA). I'm waiting for offers from Concordia, uo Saskatchewan and Memorial University of NewFoundland.

I have 8+ years of experience in one of the leading IT firm in India, mostly in technical department. After my MBA I wish to do a job in Canada and plan for PR, however quality of education and good placement is my first priority .

Could you please let me know the best school for me among the schools I have mentioned. I'm also looking for schools with low tuition fee due to poor economic conditional as a consequence of COVID-19 outbreak.[/quote]

Ryerson looks like your best choice given your focus on "Data Security". Information security is one of the hottest fields right now in Canada. I don't even think you need an MBA if you want to stay on the technical side. An MBA is for you if you want improve your general management skills - Ryerson's MBA will probably limit you to a few electives on data security. If you want to get into Data Security there are more specialized and cheaper options (e.g. a master of science in computer science or information systems). If you already have work experience in that field, you might not need any degree - just apply for immigration and you will likely get a data security job somewhere paying not too far from what MBA grads get - in Canada the top MBA programs have a median base salary of C$80-85K, which is the base salary of "manager" positions in the big banks. Experienced data security guys get much more than that. [/quote]

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Larry

556 212

Posted Jun 01, 2020 20:49

If you already have a tech background and want to jump into management I'm honestly not sure you would need a specialized 'tech' degree. An MBA from the strongest school you can get into would go farther.

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Bulla

20 9

Posted Jun 01, 2020 20:59

Thanks Larry. What is you choice amongst Ryerson, Carleton and Concordia.

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Bulla

20 9

Posted Jun 05, 2020 13:16

Thanks Alan. I have no knowledge in business management and I am from technical field.However for the last 2 years I am working in a entry level managerial role.I have a keen interest in business management with a flavour of business analytics and data science. Considering these facts which one do you suggest?

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Inactive User

2.941 1.801

Posted Jun 08, 2020 18:19

Ryerson, maybe Concordia are probably the best bets for internationals. Beyond course content, I would also look at the kinds of organizations / industries that these schools' grads end up in, which should give you a good sense of their corporate recruiters. Do these organizations reflect the kind of places you would be interested in working?

You might also look at the average salaries of MBAs who come out of the schools, and decide whether these match up with your expectations in terms of ROI.

Ryerson, maybe Concordia are probably the best bets for internationals. Beyond course content, I would also look at the kinds of organizations / industries that these schools' grads end up in, which should give you a good sense of their corporate recruiters. Do these organizations reflect the kind of places you would be interested in working? <br><br>You might also look at the average salaries of MBAs who come out of the schools, and decide whether these match up with your expectations in terms of ROI. 

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Bulla

20 9

Posted Jul 18, 2020 21:26

I have got an offer letter from Memorial University of Canada.Now I am confused between Concordia and MUN. Concordia is no doubt a better choice any day but the low tuition fee at MUN is instigating me to look at it. Please help.

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Duncan

14.013 15.475

Posted Jul 18, 2020 23:37

If one school has more placement or a higher salary, then that will more than compensate for fees.

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Inactive User

266 92

Posted Jul 19, 2020 14:54

I have got an offer letter from Memorial University of Canada.Now I am confused between Concordia and MUN. Concordia is no doubt a better choice any day but the low tuition fee at MUN is instigating me to look at it. Please help.

Contact current international students in each school and ask them their opinion. That is always the best way to decide.

Concordia would have an edge if you speak French. While Concordia is an English-speaking university, most of their graduates are bilingual (English/French) and your options in Quebec/Montreal are limited if you have no French skills.

To be honest, Canada, just like the US, is a high risk for international students in the current Covid climate. So many locals with top skills/degrees have been laid off and you would be competing against those people when you graduate.

[quote]I have got an offer letter from Memorial University of Canada.Now I am confused between Concordia and MUN. Concordia is no doubt a better choice any day but the low tuition fee at MUN is instigating me to look at it. Please help. [/quote]<br><br>Contact current international students in each school and ask them their opinion.  That is always the best way to decide.  <br><br>Concordia would have an edge if you speak French.  While Concordia is an English-speaking university, most of their graduates are bilingual (English/French) and your options in Quebec/Montreal are limited if you have no French skills.  <br><br>To be honest, Canada, just like the US, is a high risk for international students in the current Covid climate.  So many locals with top skills/degrees have been laid off and you would be competing against those people when you graduate. <br>  

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Bulla

20 9

Posted Jul 19, 2020 17:31

I have got an offer letter from Memorial University of Canada.Now I am confused between Concordia and MUN. Concordia is no doubt a better choice any day but the low tuition fee at MUN is instigating me to look at it. Please help.

Contact current international students in each school and ask them their opinion. That is always the best way to decide.

Concordia would have an edge if you speak French. While Concordia is an English-speaking university, most of their graduates are bilingual (English/French) and your options in Quebec/Montreal are limited if you have no French skills.

To be honest, Canada, just like the US, is a high risk for international students in the current Covid climate. So many locals with top skills/degrees have been laid off and you would be competing against those people when you graduate.

[quote][quote]I have got an offer letter from Memorial University of Canada.Now I am confused between Concordia and MUN. Concordia is no doubt a better choice any day but the low tuition fee at MUN is instigating me to look at it. Please help. [/quote]<br><br>Contact current international students in each school and ask them their opinion.  That is always the best way to decide.  <br><br>Concordia would have an edge if you speak French.  While Concordia is an English-speaking university, most of their graduates are bilingual (English/French) and your options in Quebec/Montreal are limited if you have no French skills.  <br><br>To be honest, Canada, just like the US, is a high risk for international students in the current Covid climate.  So many locals with top skills/degrees have been laid off and you would be competing against those people when you graduate. <br>   [/quote]

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