Franklin College Switzerland's MSIM

Tee Jay

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Posted Dec 10, 2012 21:53

Hey everyone! I'd like to know and have your suggestions regarding FC Switzerland's new MSc. in International Management program. They've recently started this program (first batch will be the class of 2013) through their newly established Taylor Institute of Global Enterprise Management.

The program costs are huge, just the tuition fees is CHF 44,000, they'd sum up to CHF 60,000 (more or less).

I don't know why's it insanely expensive, I can understand the Swiss effect, but do you all think it would deliver in terms of career prospects to its students?

I am sort of accepted to the program, but I am not sure if I'd be joining them too soon.

Your comments, suggestions, critics are truly appreciated.

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Duncan

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Posted Dec 11, 2012 01:25

These are more or less in line with Franklin's undergraduate fees per credit. I don't think you can expect quality that's much higher or lower than at other Franklin courses.

I can't see any reason for paying list price for this programme if you're able to attend an internationally recognised business school instead. Many cheaper alternatives -- Lyon, Tias, WHU, Mannheim, Lancaster, Edinburgh etc -- are world class programmes with excellent outcomes

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ezra

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Posted Dec 11, 2012 17:52

I can't see any reason for paying list price for this programme if you're able to attend an internationally recognised business school instead. Many cheaper alternatives -- Lyon, Tias, WHU, Mannheim, Lancaster, Edinburgh etc -- are world class programmes with excellent outcomes

I agree. And if you are specifically interested in Switzerland, both St. Gallen and HEC Lausanne have a range of great master in management programs.

<blockquote>I can't see any reason for paying list price for this programme if you're able to attend an internationally recognised business school instead. Many cheaper alternatives -- Lyon, Tias, WHU, Mannheim, Lancaster, Edinburgh etc -- are world class programmes with excellent outcomes</blockquote>
I agree. And if you are specifically interested in Switzerland, both St. Gallen and HEC Lausanne have a range of great master in management programs.

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Tee Jay

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Posted Dec 11, 2012 19:58

These are more or less in line with Franklin's undergraduate fees per credit. I don't think you can expect quality that's much higher or lower than at other Franklin courses.

I can't see any reason for paying list price for this programme if you're able to attend an internationally recognised business school instead. Many cheaper alternatives -- Lyon, Tias, WHU, Mannheim, Lancaster, Edinburgh etc -- are world class programmes with excellent outcomes

Thank you for your comments Dunkan. I really appreciate your time and concern.

You're right that I can attend a lot of better business schools than FC.

I would like to express my philosophy ( I may sound absurd, but..). I am 22, I have a different criteria of selecting a business school. I take into consideration the location and diversity of participants in the program. I work more on networking because of my long term goal, which is to develop on and venture in to a niche business which I have in mind. It's just that a business school is a way to get access to a consulting job for few years, which will give me my taste of Strategy. Strategy is what satisfies my taste buds and my focal point of interest.

I had chosen London as the city to start my journey, and LBS in particular. To be honest and with due respect to other business schools in UK, I think Imperial, UCL, KCL, Brunel, or even Manchester are more of academic than professional and not "well"-connected to the ever changing market streams ( I may be wrong). However, my CGPA, which is 2.7 on a scale of 4.0 would disappoint LBS. Though, I have several co/extra-curricular and community engagement under my belt; but who cares, it filters down to GPA and GMAT in the end ( I may be wrong yet again). I am re-appearing in GMAT to score above 700; with 680 in my first attempt.

So, that's why I am in search of a novel and unique program which will connect me to the like minded entrepreneurial spirits. Please help me, I am confused.

Thanks and sorry for such a long post. :)

<blockquote>These are more or less in line with Franklin's undergraduate fees per credit. I don't think you can expect quality that's much higher or lower than at other Franklin courses.

I can't see any reason for paying list price for this programme if you're able to attend an internationally recognised business school instead. Many cheaper alternatives -- Lyon, Tias, WHU, Mannheim, Lancaster, Edinburgh etc -- are world class programmes with excellent outcomes</blockquote>

Thank you for your comments Dunkan. I really appreciate your time and concern.

You're right that I can attend a lot of better business schools than FC.

I would like to express my philosophy ( I may sound absurd, but..). I am 22, I have a different criteria of selecting a business school. I take into consideration the location and diversity of participants in the program. I work more on networking because of my long term goal, which is to develop on and venture in to a niche business which I have in mind. It's just that a business school is a way to get access to a consulting job for few years, which will give me my taste of Strategy. Strategy is what satisfies my taste buds and my focal point of interest.

I had chosen London as the city to start my journey, and LBS in particular. To be honest and with due respect to other business schools in UK, I think Imperial, UCL, KCL, Brunel, or even Manchester are more of academic than professional and not "well"-connected to the ever changing market streams ( I may be wrong). However, my CGPA, which is 2.7 on a scale of 4.0 would disappoint LBS. Though, I have several co/extra-curricular and community engagement under my belt; but who cares, it filters down to GPA and GMAT in the end ( I may be wrong yet again). I am re-appearing in GMAT to score above 700; with 680 in my first attempt.

So, that's why I am in search of a novel and unique program which will connect me to the like minded entrepreneurial spirits. Please help me, I am confused.

Thanks and sorry for such a long post. :)

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Tee Jay

4 8

Posted Dec 11, 2012 19:58

*Duncan :D

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Tee Jay

4 8

Posted Dec 11, 2012 20:02

I can't see any reason for paying list price for this programme if you're able to attend an internationally recognised business school instead. Many cheaper alternatives -- Lyon, Tias, WHU, Mannheim, Lancaster, Edinburgh etc -- are world class programmes with excellent outcomes

I agree. And if you are specifically interested in Switzerland, both St. Gallen and HEC Lausanne have a range of great master in management programs.

Ezra, you are spot on! Thank you very much for your post. :)

I am considering St. Gallen and HEC Lausanne (not to underestimate HEC Geneve). However, St. Gallen has changed its focus from staying at the top of rankings to making the admissions policy more rigorous (keeping in view their international applicants cap and limited space for the program). I spoke to few of the students who easily got admitted with a GMAT score of 650 in the previous 2 years. That's what they had to say.

But, I will still try to play my shot for St. Gallen in addition to HEC Lausanne and HEC Geneve.

Your suggestions are really important to me.

<blockquote><blockquote>I can't see any reason for paying list price for this programme if you're able to attend an internationally recognised business school instead. Many cheaper alternatives -- Lyon, Tias, WHU, Mannheim, Lancaster, Edinburgh etc -- are world class programmes with excellent outcomes</blockquote>
I agree. And if you are specifically interested in Switzerland, both St. Gallen and HEC Lausanne have a range of great master in management programs.</blockquote>

Ezra, you are spot on! Thank you very much for your post. :)

I am considering St. Gallen and HEC Lausanne (not to underestimate HEC Geneve). However, St. Gallen has changed its focus from staying at the top of rankings to making the admissions policy more rigorous (keeping in view their international applicants cap and limited space for the program). I spoke to few of the students who easily got admitted with a GMAT score of 650 in the previous 2 years. That's what they had to say.

But, I will still try to play my shot for St. Gallen in addition to HEC Lausanne and HEC Geneve.

Your suggestions are really important to me.

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ezra

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Posted Dec 19, 2012 17:24

However, St. Gallen has changed its focus from staying at the top of rankings to making the admissions policy more rigorous

This really isn't surprising, but I would think it's due to more competition simply because there is increased interest because it has been rising in the rankings.

But, I will still try to play my shot for St. Gallen in addition to HEC Lausanne and HEC Geneve.

HEC Geneve is a good option as well. Since you're interested in strategy, you might want to look into the program's concentration in strategic management.

<blockquote>However, St. Gallen has changed its focus from staying at the top of rankings to making the admissions policy more rigorous</blockquote>
This really isn't surprising, but I would think it's due to more competition simply because there is increased interest because it has been rising in the rankings.

<blockquote>But, I will still try to play my shot for St. Gallen in addition to HEC Lausanne and HEC Geneve.</blockquote>
HEC Geneve is a good option as well. Since you're interested in strategy, you might want to look into the program's concentration in strategic management.

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Tee Jay

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Posted Dec 19, 2012 20:30

Thank you very much Ezra.

I talked to few people on other forums. They concluded that HEC Geneve is pretty new and hasn't made its mark yet, not as much as HEC Lausanne has.

However, I think, University of Geneve is better known internationally than University of Lausanne, whereas in Europe, it's the other way round. What's your take on this?

Moreover, I'd be happy if you kindly suggest me some programs that (are based on Strategy or) principally incorporate Strategic Management in their curriculum. Please consider, careers and ratio of students going on to become entrepreneurs, while suggesting.

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Tee Jay

4 8

Posted Dec 19, 2012 20:38

However, St. Gallen has changed its focus from staying at the top of rankings to making the admissions policy more rigorous

This really isn't surprising, but I would think it's due to more competition simply because there is increased interest because it has been rising in the rankings.

I think, St. Gallen has competitive advantage due to the value it offers (Swiss Government has subsidized the education and offers a lot of educational subsidies to international students in an effort to maintain a balance between higher costs of living and tuition fees itself).

Surprisingly, I read it somewhere that St. Gallen may raise the tuition fees for this program, in particular. Keeping that fluff in view, it may or may not remain the most valuable program in 2013. Still, without any doubt, it offers an exceptional curriculum to study and hone your skills.

<blockquote><blockquote>However, St. Gallen has changed its focus from staying at the top of rankings to making the admissions policy more rigorous</blockquote>
This really isn't surprising, but I would think it's due to more competition simply because there is increased interest because it has been rising in the rankings.<blockquote>

I think, St. Gallen has competitive advantage due to the value it offers (Swiss Government has subsidized the education and offers a lot of educational subsidies to international students in an effort to maintain a balance between higher costs of living and tuition fees itself).

Surprisingly, I read it somewhere that St. Gallen may raise the tuition fees for this program, in particular. Keeping that fluff in view, it may or may not remain the most valuable program in 2013. Still, without any doubt, it offers an exceptional curriculum to study and hone your skills.

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