Mannheim-ESMT-WHU or other in Germany speaking region?

chismooo

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Posted Dec 16, 2016 11:07

Hi everybody,
I am pursuing MBA, in a German-speaking country. I live in Munich now, and I am planning to work in Munich in technology industry after MBA. I have A2 German, and I am aware that learning language and full-time MBA don't go together. However, I am sure even daily German conversations, listening to people at Metro and watching German TV can keep you on a degree; for this reason, I decided to go for an MBA in a German-speaking country, knowing that they are not in top 10 in EU.

According to my research, I have the options below, what do you think about them ?

- St. Gallen: close to Munich, ranked among top 5 in EU region according to FT, good network in Munich according to Linkedin, BUT twice as much fee as German MBAs.

- Mannheim - close to Munich, ranked 1st-2nd in Germany, BUT don't have a broad network in Munich. (it can be understandable, considering the new MBA history in Germany)

- ESMT - Ranked 1-2nd in Germany (Mannheim and ESMT have ranks close to each other; thus I will think their ranks same), famous in the tech industry, BUT don't have a broad network in Munich.

- WHU - ranked after ESMT and Mannheim, interestingly, have a broad network in Munich.

- Leipzig - ranked after ESMT and Mannheim

- Munich Business School - not well-known but at Munich; thus I can work and study part-time.

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mba_13

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Posted Dec 16, 2016 16:51

Read Duncan's posts to find the best school and language requirements
http://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/how-to-use-linkedin-to-find-the-best-school-28559
http://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546

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chismooo

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Posted Dec 16, 2016 17:17

Read Duncan's posts to find the best school and language requirements
http://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/how-to-use-linkedin-to-find-the-best-school-28559
http://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546

Thanks for the links, I have already read them.

Unfortunately, linkedin does not provide a sufficient data; for example: Technical University of Munich and Ludwig Maximillian are the main provider of white collar employees, both having several departments and popularity in engineering field. These universities do not have an MBA -or have unknown programs-, but have a great network in Germany.

WHU seems to have the largest network, among the universities popular with their MBAs. However, WHU is not ranked top.

In terms of network-university relationship, Linkedin data is misleading.

I have also checked the industry-university relationship. ESMT seems one step forward at this point. However, my main goal is connecting old industries with the digital economy. For instance, adidas is not my dream company from a perspective of industry, but it is my dream company if I will be the one managing the "new businesses departmant".

I would like to learn whether there is a "real popularity" of German MBAs among recuiters?

[quote]Read Duncan's posts to find the best school and language requirements
http://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/how-to-use-linkedin-to-find-the-best-school-28559
http://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546 [/quote]

Thanks for the links, I have already read them.

Unfortunately, linkedin does not provide a sufficient data; for example: Technical University of Munich and Ludwig Maximillian are the main provider of white collar employees, both having several departments and popularity in engineering field. These universities do not have an MBA -or have unknown programs-, but have a great network in Germany.

WHU seems to have the largest network, among the universities popular with their MBAs. However, WHU is not ranked top.

In terms of network-university relationship, Linkedin data is misleading.

I have also checked the industry-university relationship. ESMT seems one step forward at this point. However, my main goal is connecting old industries with the digital economy. For instance, adidas is not my dream company from a perspective of industry, but it is my dream company if I will be the one managing the "new businesses departmant".

I would like to learn whether there is a "real popularity" of German MBAs among recuiters?

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Duncan

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Posted Dec 17, 2016 00:59

I don't understand why you think LinkedIn data are misleading. MBAs are white collar employees, but if you add MBA as a keyword in your search surely that will show you exactly what you what to discover?

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Dan85

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Posted Dec 18, 2016 14:59

I would like to learn whether there is a "real popularity" of German MBAs among recuiters?

This really is the key question and you already made some valuable conclusions with linkedin - MBA is not established in Germany. Most companies (not all of them) will think that it's "just another Masters program". If you want recognition, you have two options:

1) Go for a MSc. from a well-known school, such as LMU or TU. The MiM is the standard degree for business here. Most companies (and the German society, sadly) value PhD way more than MBA.
2) Go for a well-known foreign schools that carries a huge name.

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I would like to learn whether there is a "real popularity" of German MBAs among recuiters?[/quote]

This really is the key question and you already made some valuable conclusions with linkedin - MBA is not established in Germany. Most companies (not all of them) will think that it's "just another Masters program". If you want recognition, you have two options:

1) Go for a MSc. from a well-known school, such as LMU or TU. The MiM is the standard degree for business here. Most companies (and the German society, sadly) value PhD way more than MBA.
2) Go for a well-known foreign schools that carries a huge name.

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Duncan

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Posted Dec 18, 2016 19:58

The MBA is a niche product in German. International firms value the best, as is shown by the rankings.

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