Posted Apr 25, 2010 00:08
In terms of pure data:
I personally prefer The Economists rankings. If you click on the school you are interested in, they provide you a full profile that includes very solid data. The actual rankings (as in what school is higher than what) is questionable, but the data they collect is VERY solid.
My rant on PPP (you don't have to read this part, but you could):
I don't trust FT (financial times) rankings because they adjust for PPP. I personally think adjusting for PPP skews the data in a globalizing world, this is especially if you don't do it right. It also makes it hard to calculate ROI (return on investment). They adjust the salary data according to PPP, but they don't adjust the tuition for PPP, so if it costs you US$30,000 in absolute dollars, FT will tell you this and won't adjust it for PPP (US$30,000 is a lot in China for example, but they won't adjust it for PPP). But if the starting salary is $55,000, they won't tell you this. They will say $55,000 is a lot for a Chinese person. Magically it becomes $120,000 to account for PPP. It's ridiculous.
Furthermore, they don't tell you if the salary is calculated based on where they end up working, or just done lazily. This makes it very hard to calculate ROI. For example, if they are lazy, they just gather up all the data and then do a PPP based on where the school is located, the data is very inaccurate. An alumni from CEIBS, for example, might go to NY and make only $70,000 (after having paid $50,000 for the MBA). Furthermore, they don't benefit from cheap living costs of China since they left China. So if FT is lazy about it, they would take this person's data and adjust it for Chinese PPP and then magically he is making $140,000 despite in reality the person is not doing so well (pretty bad off actually).
Even if they don't calculate in questionable ways as the above, you JUST ranked up $50,000 in debt, and now only make $60,000 a year in China. In imaginary PPP dollars, you might be rich to a Chinese local. But in reality, you are shouldering a lot of debt, and don't make a lot. If a ranking provides actual data (instead of PPP), a person could more easily calculate ROI and know when their debts will be paid off. Otherwise its hard to know what the burdens will be.
Not only that, because of these adjustments, Chinese schools (just using them as an example, I have nothing against Chinese schools, but they're just the first thing that comes to mind) would get a boost and out of nowhere be higher than schools with higher actual salary. So it depends how it is calculated. And on their website, there is no clear methodology on it. So to me, FT is questionable and should not be relied on. In a globalizing world, if your school is actually top notch, your alumni will land jobs in top centers of the world, such as NY, London etc... This means your ACTUAL salary should be very high, because they are landing jobs that are ACTUALLY top notch (not just jobs that are comparatively better than everyone else in a poor country). A lot of top schools are located in advanced countries, and they also send their graduates to top financial centers. But FT woudl give these schools a disadvantage by adjust for PPP. I think they should stop doing it.
A lot of people say that adjusting for PPP makes the ranking fair to Chinese, Indian or other schools in such countries. Maybe that is true. But in terms of data gathering, it becomes very misleading to look at $140,000 starting salary on FT rankings, and then go onto the school's actual website and see that they actually only make $50,000 in absolute US dollars. I don't believe in imaginery money and PPP adjustment.
In terms of the rankings itself:
I like businessweek. That's just personal preference. But in the end, it's better if you look at the hard data yourself and consider the factors of what you consider is most important to you. In terms of prestige, if you are aiming for that, just check out the various big name rankings. FT is shitty for data in my opinion, but in terms of the ranking itself (ordering which one is better than which), they do alright. Economist is pretty off on this side of things (although good for data), so not so much Economist for this part. Forbes is also alright.
In terms of pure data:
I personally prefer The Economists rankings. If you click on the school you are interested in, they provide you a full profile that includes very solid data. The actual rankings (as in what school is higher than what) is questionable, but the data they collect is VERY solid.
My rant on PPP (you don't have to read this part, but you could):
I don't trust FT (financial times) rankings because they adjust for PPP. I personally think adjusting for PPP skews the data in a globalizing world, this is especially if you don't do it right. It also makes it hard to calculate ROI (return on investment). They adjust the salary data according to PPP, but they don't adjust the tuition for PPP, so if it costs you US$30,000 in absolute dollars, FT will tell you this and won't adjust it for PPP (US$30,000 is a lot in China for example, but they won't adjust it for PPP). But if the starting salary is $55,000, they won't tell you this. They will say $55,000 is a lot for a Chinese person. Magically it becomes $120,000 to account for PPP. It's ridiculous.
Furthermore, they don't tell you if the salary is calculated based on where they end up working, or just done lazily. This makes it very hard to calculate ROI. For example, if they are lazy, they just gather up all the data and then do a PPP based on where the school is located, the data is very inaccurate. An alumni from CEIBS, for example, might go to NY and make only $70,000 (after having paid $50,000 for the MBA). Furthermore, they don't benefit from cheap living costs of China since they left China. So if FT is lazy about it, they would take this person's data and adjust it for Chinese PPP and then magically he is making $140,000 despite in reality the person is not doing so well (pretty bad off actually).
Even if they don't calculate in questionable ways as the above, you JUST ranked up $50,000 in debt, and now only make $60,000 a year in China. In imaginary PPP dollars, you might be rich to a Chinese local. But in reality, you are shouldering a lot of debt, and don't make a lot. If a ranking provides actual data (instead of PPP), a person could more easily calculate ROI and know when their debts will be paid off. Otherwise its hard to know what the burdens will be.
Not only that, because of these adjustments, Chinese schools (just using them as an example, I have nothing against Chinese schools, but they're just the first thing that comes to mind) would get a boost and out of nowhere be higher than schools with higher actual salary. So it depends how it is calculated. And on their website, there is no clear methodology on it. So to me, FT is questionable and should not be relied on. In a globalizing world, if your school is actually top notch, your alumni will land jobs in top centers of the world, such as NY, London etc... This means your ACTUAL salary should be very high, because they are landing jobs that are ACTUALLY top notch (not just jobs that are comparatively better than everyone else in a poor country). A lot of top schools are located in advanced countries, and they also send their graduates to top financial centers. But FT woudl give these schools a disadvantage by adjust for PPP. I think they should stop doing it.
A lot of people say that adjusting for PPP makes the ranking fair to Chinese, Indian or other schools in such countries. Maybe that is true. But in terms of data gathering, it becomes very misleading to look at $140,000 starting salary on FT rankings, and then go onto the school's actual website and see that they actually only make $50,000 in absolute US dollars. I don't believe in imaginery money and PPP adjustment.
In terms of the rankings itself:
I like businessweek. That's just personal preference. But in the end, it's better if you look at the hard data yourself and consider the factors of what you consider is most important to you. In terms of prestige, if you are aiming for that, just check out the various big name rankings. FT is shitty for data in my opinion, but in terms of the ranking itself (ordering which one is better than which), they do alright. Economist is pretty off on this side of things (although good for data), so not so much Economist for this part. Forbes is also alright.