USA vs UK for MBA?

Varun Puri

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 08:43

Hi,

I have offers from Willamette University US for MBA with Data Science and University of East Anglia(1 year MBA), career goal is to work in the US. Which one should I choose? Should I try for more American universities of is Willamette one of the good ones?

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 11:19

Willamette University does not have an MBA with Data Science. As you know, the US is one of the least open countries for foreign students. If you want to work in the US, the best option is a masters degree that is "STEM-designated" by the US government. Generally schools will prominently state if it does have that designation.
PS Study in the US if you want to in the US.

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Varun Puri

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 17:18

Willamette University does not have an MBA with Data Science. As you know, the US is one of the least open countries for foreign students. If you want to work in the US, the best option is a masters degree that is "STEM-designated" by the US government. Generally schools will prominently state if it does have that designation.
PS Study in the US if you want to in the US.

Thanks for the swift response Duncan, the electives they have suggested me turn it into a MBA in Data Science, its like this - https://harlequin-katherine-24.tiiny.site/

Could you suggest any better Universities for a STEM MBA/MS in Marketing or Management? I am looking for a good campus to enjoy college life.

Have 5 years of work experience but my Undergrad GPA is very low at just 2.5

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<div>Willamette University does not have an MBA with Data Science. As you know, the US is one of the least open countries for foreign students. If you want to work in the US, the best option is a masters degree that is "STEM-designated" by the US government. Generally schools will prominently state if it does have that designation. </div><div><br>PS Study in the US if you want to in the US.</div><div><br>
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</div> [/quote]Thanks for the swift response Duncan, the electives they have suggested me turn it into a MBA in Data Science, its like this - https://harlequin-katherine-24.tiiny.site/<br><br>Could you suggest any better Universities for a STEM MBA/MS in Marketing or Management? I am looking for a good campus to enjoy college life.<br><br><br><br>Have 5 years of work experience but my Undergrad GPA is very low at just 2.5 

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 18:07

You have to do some due diligence here. As far as I can see from their website, Willamette does not offer a dual-degree MBA/MSDS. The MSDS is an evening degree, so you could take it alongside the MBA, but then you would pay for two degrees and have a heavy course load. https://willamette.edu/mba/programs/eccc/index.html

There are some great STEM-designated MS in marketing. Try Google https://www.google.com/search?q=stem+designated+ms+marketing+site%3A.edu

PS On that list, JHU, UT Austin, UT Dallas, Krannert and Simon stand out to me. Simon would be my top pick. The Columbia program is highly selective; don't bother unless you have prior education at a school of similar stature to COlumbia.

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You have to do some due diligence here. As far as I can see from their website, Willamette does not offer a dual-degree MBA/MSDS. The MSDS is an evening degree, so you could take it alongside the MBA, but then you would pay for two degrees and have a heavy course load. https://willamette.edu/mba/programs/eccc/index.html <br><br>There are some great STEM-designated MS in marketing. Try Google https://www.google.com/search?q=stem+designated+ms+marketing+site%3A.edu <br><br>PS On that list, JHU, UT Austin, UT Dallas, Krannert and Simon stand out to me. Simon would be my top pick. The Columbia program is highly selective; don't bother unless you have prior education at a school of similar stature to COlumbia. 

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Varun Puri

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 18:22

You have to do some due diligence here. As far as I can see from their website, Willamette does not offer a dual-degree MBA/MSDS. The MSDS is an evening degree, so you could take it alongside the MBA, but then you would pay for two degrees and have a heavy course load. https://willamette.edu/mba/programs/eccc/index.html

There are some great STEM-designated MS in marketing. Try Google https://www.google.com/search?q=stem+designated+ms+marketing+site%3A.edu

PS On that list, JHU, UT Austin, UT Dallas, Krannert and Simon stand out to me. Simon would be my top pick. The Columbia program is highly selective; don't bother unless you have prior education at a school of similar stature to COlumbia.

Do you think it would be better to go UK for MBA (1 year) and then do MS in marketing(1 year) in the US? Than 2 years MBA in the US.

The 1 year MBA will also make my education 16 years. I can't apply to majority of tier 1 schools right now like Simon, UConn etc due to 3 years undergrad.

+ Too late for fall 22 in the US, i could start filing for fall 23 in the US and do one year course in the UK.

[quote]You have to do some due diligence here. As far as I can see from their website, Willamette does not offer a dual-degree MBA/MSDS. The MSDS is an evening degree, so you could take it alongside the MBA, but then you would pay for two degrees and have a heavy course load. https://willamette.edu/mba/programs/eccc/index.html <br><br>There are some great STEM-designated MS in marketing. Try Google https://www.google.com/search?q=stem+designated+ms+marketing+site%3A.edu <br><br>PS On that list, JHU, UT Austin, UT Dallas, Krannert and Simon stand out to me. Simon would be my top pick. The Columbia program is highly selective; don't bother unless you have prior education at a school of similar stature to COlumbia.  [/quote]<br><br>Do you think it would be better to go UK for MBA (1 year) and then do MS in marketing(1 year) in the US? Than 2 years MBA in the US.<br><br>The 1 year MBA will also make my education 16 years. I can't apply to majority of tier 1 schools right now like Simon, UConn etc due to 3 years undergrad. <br><br>+ Too late for fall 22 in the US, i could start filing for fall 23 in the US and do one year course in the UK.

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 18:52

Studying in the UK won't help you find work in the US.

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Varun Puri

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 18:57

Studying in the UK won't help you find work in the US.

yeah but I'll have an additional degree in less time right and maybe a higher pay.

MBA in US at a lower tier university - 2 YEARS then work with 3 years OPT
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MBA in UK in a top 20 University - 1 yearMS in marketing in US at a more renowned University - 1 year then work in the US on a 3 years OPT.

Time taken is same + i get to experience two different countries and still get the 3 years OPT in the US.

[quote]Studying in the UK won't help you find work in the US.  [/quote] yeah but I'll have an additional degree in less time right and maybe a higher pay.<br><br>MBA in US at a lower tier university - 2 YEARS then work with 3 years OPT<div><br>or</div><div><br>MBA in UK in a top 20 University - 1 year</div><div>MS in marketing in US at a more renowned University - 1 year then work in the US on a 3 years OPT. </div><br><br>Time taken is same + i get to experience two different countries and still get the 3 years OPT in the US.

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 19:57

I don't understand why you don't either
- a - apply to an MS in marketing or analytics that accepted people with three-year degrees, like MIT, UT Dallas, Rutgers, or
- b - take a course equal to one extra year of study that is not an MBA in the UK. For example, you could take an online program or take a post-baccalureate program in the US, since the US is where you want to be.

I don't understand why you don't either<br>- a - apply to an MS in marketing or analytics that accepted people with three-year degrees, like MIT, UT Dallas, Rutgers, or<br>- b - take a course equal to one extra year of study that is not an MBA in the UK. For example, you could take an online program or take a post-baccalureate program in the US, since the US is where you want to be. 

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Varun Puri

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 22:37

I don't understand why you don't either
- a - apply to an MS in marketing or analytics that accepted people with three-year degrees, like MIT, UT Dallas, Rutgers, or
- b - take a course equal to one extra year of study that is not an MBA in the UK. For example, you could take an online program or take a post-baccalureate program in the US, since the US is where you want to be.

because of "MBA" title.

Isn't an MBA top of the food chain? I want that coveted title and be able to tell people that I hold a MBA degree

Also, afaik MS in marketing will limit me to the marketing department of a company while with a MBA I can join the core leadership in future.

[quote]I don't understand why you don't either<br>- a - apply to an MS in marketing or analytics that accepted people with three-year degrees, like MIT, UT Dallas, Rutgers, or<br>- b - take a course equal to one extra year of study that is not an MBA in the UK. For example, you could take an online program or take a post-baccalureate program in the US, since the US is where you want to be.  [/quote] because of "MBA" title.<br><br>Isn't an MBA top of the food chain? I want that coveted title and be able to tell people that I hold a MBA degree<br><br>Also, afaik MS in marketing will limit me to the marketing department of a company while with a MBA I can join the core leadership in future.<div><br></div>

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 04, 2022 23:03

In a nutshell, no. The most coveted qualifications are from the best schools. Other things being equal, an MS from a top 40 school (according to US News) like MIT, UT Austin, UT Dallas or Simon is going to have better outcomes than an MBA from a school outside the top 100. You were the one who brought up marketing, but I don't think a functional masters in marketing is more limiting than a masters in data science. Their are more Cheif Marketing Officers on bpoards than Chief Data Scientists.

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