Strathclyde vs Cass vs Bath

vruthik09

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 06:54

I got offer's from university of strathclyde ( international management ) university of bath (international management) cass business school ( international business ).
I have 2 years of administrative experience , want to try job opportunities in field of Management consultant/associate , business consultant
which will be the best university regarding job opportunities and value of teaching ?

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 10:16

Did you consider looking at the FT MiM ranking?

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natha

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 10:18

Please note that Cass business school has since been renamed to "Bayes business school". Bayes is definitely the best choice on all levels.

Please note that Cass business school has since been renamed to "Bayes business school". Bayes is definitely the best choice on all levels.<br><br>

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natha

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 10:20

Here is a link to the MIM rankings. Bayes tops the list in the UK https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/5/masters-in-management-2021

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vruthik09

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 11:10

Did you consider looking at the FT MiM ranking?

Yes sir , i've considered the rankings Bayes is way ahead than the other two colleges , but i saw a post of u saying international business from bayes is of poor outcomes compare to other management programme's they offer . Strathclyde has a very good employment rate in recent past , It's business school is on rise from few years , so in confusion to choose between Bayes and Strathclyde

[quote]Did you consider looking at the FT MiM ranking?  [/quote] <br><br>Yes sir , i've considered the rankings Bayes is way ahead than the other two colleges , but i saw a post of u saying international business from bayes is of poor outcomes compare to other management programme's they offer . Strathclyde has a very good employment rate in recent past , It's business school is on rise from few years , so in confusion to choose between Bayes and Strathclyde 

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 11:52

international business from Bayes is of poor outcomes compared to other management programmes they offer

Strathclyde has a very good employment rate in recent past , It's business school is on rise from few years

I not sure that's the case at the MSc level. Even at the MSc level, remeber that their flagship MiM is basically a 'freshers MBA', and holders can easily upgrade to an MBA after a few years. That is not the case with the international business options.

[quote][quote]international business from Bayes is of poor outcomes compared to other management programmes they offer  [/quote]<br><br>This is true at every school, and is nothing to do with Bayes. The international business/management pathway is generally less quantitative and more aimed at people returning to their home country, while the flagship MiM will be more selective, more quantitative and better suited for people wanting to work where they study. <br><br>[quote][quote]Strathclyde has a very good employment rate in recent past , It's business school is on rise from few years  [/quote]<br><br>I not sure that's the case at the MSc level. Even at the MSc level, remeber that their flagship MiM is basically a 'freshers MBA', and holders can easily upgrade to an MBA after a few years. That is not the case with the international business options. 

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vruthik09

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 11:56

international business from Bayes is of poor outcomes compared to other management programmes they offer

This is true at every school, and is nothing to do with Bayes. The international business/management pathway is generally less quantitative and more aimed at people returning to their home country, while the flagship MiM will be more selective, more quantitative and better suited for people wanting to work where they study.

I not sure that's the case at the MSc level. Even at the MSc level, remeber that their flagship MiM is basically a 'freshers MBA', and holders can easily upgrade to an MBA after a few years. That is not the case with the international business options.

So sir should i puruse a Management career or any specification (marketing,finance,HR) to secure a job in UK itself

[quote][quote][quote]international business from Bayes is of poor outcomes compared to other management programmes they offer  [/quote]<br><br>This is true at every school, and is nothing to do with Bayes. The international business/management pathway is generally less quantitative and more aimed at people returning to their home country, while the flagship MiM will be more selective, more quantitative and better suited for people wanting to work where they study. <br><br>[quote][quote]Strathclyde has a very good employment rate in recent past , It's business school is on rise from few years  [/quote]<br><br>I not sure that's the case at the MSc level. Even at the MSc level, remeber that their flagship MiM is basically a 'freshers MBA', and holders can easily upgrade to an MBA after a few years. That is not the case with the international business options.  <br><br>So sir should i puruse a Management career or any specification (marketing,finance,HR) to secure a job in UK itself

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 07, 2022 12:42

The three rules are:

1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees

2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance

3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate.

Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level.

The three rules are:<br><br>1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees<br><br>2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance<br><br>3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate. <br><br>Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level. 

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aslamo

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Posted Jul 08, 2022 11:04

The three rules are:

1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees

2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance

3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate.

Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level.

Excellent advice, especially number 3 which probably gets overlooked by students.

Would be good to have this as a sticky note but it seems this forum doesn't support that functionality?

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[quote]The three rules are:<br><br>1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees<br><br>2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance<br><br>3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate. <br><br>Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level.  [/quote]<br><div><br>
</div><div>Excellent advice, especially number 3 which probably gets overlooked by students.<br>
</div><br><br><div>Would be good to have this as a sticky note but it seems this forum doesn't support that functionality?<br>
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vruthik09

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Posted Jul 10, 2022 09:30

The three rules are:

1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees

2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance

3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate.

Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level.

Excellent advice, especially number 3 which probably gets overlooked by students.

Would be good to have this as a sticky note but it seems this forum doesn't support that functionality?

University of Strathclyde/ University of bath which best for msc management ( bath is high in rankings ) but strathclyde's employment rate and clg's credibility is growing , please help me out torn between these both have to take the decision as soon as possible

[quote][quote]The three rules are:<br><br>1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees<br><br>2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance<br><br>3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate. <br><br>Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level.  [/quote]<br><div><br>
</div><div>Excellent advice, especially number 3 which probably gets overlooked by students.<br>
</div><br><br><div>Would be good to have this as a sticky note but it seems this forum doesn't support that functionality?<br>
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</div> [/quote]<br>University of Strathclyde/ University of bath which best for msc management ( bath is high in rankings ) but strathclyde's employment rate and clg's credibility is growing , please help me out torn between these both have to take the decision as soon as possible 

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 10, 2022 10:43

I don't see any data to suggest that Strathclyde has better MSc placement than Bath. If it did, surely it would be in the FT MIM ranking. The alternatives to Bath should be schools with higher percentages employed and similar or better salaries.

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vruthik09

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Posted Jul 13, 2022 07:17

Lancaster / strathclyde for msc management?

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 13, 2022 08:47

Did you consider looking at the FT MiM ranking?

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vruthik09

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Posted Jul 13, 2022 08:51

Yes sir , Lancaster is slightly high but want your opinion on this

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 13, 2022 09:06

See my profile page to see how to get a personal recommendation. I just don't understand why you think Lancaster is "slightly" higher than Strathclyde when Lancaster is in the ranking and Strathclyde is not. https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/5/masters-in-management-2021

See my profile page to see how to get a personal recommendation.  I just don't understand why you think Lancaster is "slightly" higher than Strathclyde when Lancaster is in the ranking and Strathclyde is not. https://rankings.ft.com/rankings/5/masters-in-management-2021 

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vruthik09

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Posted Jul 13, 2022 09:27

Is the ft times only criteria?In Uk guardians ranking, the times sunday rankings strathclyde has good rankings and even it is triple accredited right?

Is the ft times only criteria?In Uk guardians ranking, the times sunday rankings strathclyde has good rankings and even it is triple accredited right?<br><br>

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 13, 2022 10:20

The FT ranking includes outcomes like employment and salary for the MiM in particular. If outcomes from the MiM matter to you less than the criteria in the undergraduate-focussed rankings then use those.

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Suku suku

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Posted Aug 03, 2022 14:28

Hi Duncan!

Is Project Management a course directly aligned to any business function of a company?

Could you suggest some good schools in UK for the same?

The three rules are:

1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees

2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance

3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate.

Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level.

Hi Duncan!<br><br>Is Project Management a course directly aligned to any business function of a company? <br><br>Could you suggest some good schools in UK for the same?<br><br>[quote]The three rules are:<br><br>1. Practice-rich degrees aligned to business functions and skills shortages > Qualitative, generic degrees<br><br>2. Excellent business schools, highly relevant to your goals > good business schools, with average relevance<br><br>3. Studies aligned to your goals, values and aptitude > Studies aligned to better paying jobs you will hate. <br><br>Take a look at the FT rankings for the MiM and MiF: Other things being equal, the MiF will get the average student better placement than a degree in international business. Salaries are even higher in economics at the undergraduate level.  [/quote]

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Duncan

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Posted Aug 03, 2022 17:21

I had a few recommendations on another three a few days ago:

Stronger for projects:
https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/studying-here/postgraduate/electronic-engineering/software-project-management/
https://www.strath.ac.uk/courses/postgraduatetaught/projectmanagementinnovation/
Stronger for product:
https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/courses/taught/global-product-development-and-management
Stronger for digital:
https://www.bath.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate-2022/taught-postgraduate-courses/msc-innovation-and-technology-management/
https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/postgraduate-courses/digital-business-innovation-and-management-msc/ https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/graduate/taught-degrees/emerging-digital-technologies-msc
https://www.lse.ac.uk/study-at-lse/Graduate/degree-programmes-2022/MSc-Management-Information-Systems-and-Digital-Innovation
https://www.lboro.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/masters-degrees/a-z/digital-innovation-management/

I had a few recommendations on another three a few days ago:<br><div>
</div><br><div>Stronger for projects:
</div><div>https://www.royalholloway.ac.uk/studying-here/postgraduate/electronic-engineering/software-project-management/
</div><div>https://www.strath.ac.uk/courses/postgraduatetaught/projectmanagementinnovation/
</div><div>Stronger for product:
</div><div>https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/courses/taught/global-product-development-and-management
</div><div>Stronger for digital:
</div><div>https://www.bath.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate-2022/taught-postgraduate-courses/msc-innovation-and-technology-management/
</div><div>https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/postgraduate-courses/digital-business-innovation-and-management-msc/ https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/graduate/taught-degrees/emerging-digital-technologies-msc
</div><div>https://www.lse.ac.uk/study-at-lse/Graduate/degree-programmes-2022/MSc-Management-Information-Systems-and-Digital-Innovation 
</div><div>https://www.lboro.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/masters-degrees/a-z/digital-innovation-management/ </div><br><br><br><div>
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