Executive MBA Advice

EMBA World

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Posted Oct 23, 2012 23:17

It seems from the dialogue that everyone is mentioning countries and schools but nothing in terms of your area of concentration, expertise, or interest. Since I am more familiar with the North American EMBA programs many offer areas of concentration or even industry specialization. If you are an engineer, IT, finance, medicine, law, etc., there are EMBAs that have specific tracks to help you focus or strengthen. THe case may be the same in Europe. Also, many US schools have joint programs overseas and are introducing such models. Is there an area you wish to hone your skills further or an area of interest you wish to develop? If so then I am happy to look for you. Of course check out the program comparison tool on our site, this may provide some details that may help. Let me know.
Jason Price

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ralph

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Posted Oct 24, 2012 14:23

If you are an engineer, IT, finance, medicine, law, etc., there are EMBAs that have specific tracks to help you focus or strengthen.

No, this isn't really the case. With some exceptions, functional and industry-oriented career tracks are usually only available for full-time MBA programs.

Please, if you don't have any constructive advice to add to this thread, you might want to market your website elsewhere.

<blockquote>If you are an engineer, IT, finance, medicine, law, etc., there are EMBAs that have specific tracks to help you focus or strengthen.</blockquote>
No, this isn't really the case. With some exceptions, functional and industry-oriented career tracks are usually only available for full-time MBA programs.

Please, if you don't have any constructive advice to add to this thread, you might want to market your website elsewhere.

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nanand1977

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Posted Oct 24, 2012 15:12

I totally agree on this with Ralph

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jerome_tri

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Posted Oct 24, 2012 20:31

I tried yesterday to look at several programs in benelux or germany that offer dual mba graduation (ie. With partnership with another university or business school)? In my tuition range I found the interesting DBS & EBS program. Any insight on this specific program or any other program of this type ?

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maubia

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Posted Oct 24, 2012 20:53

I tried yesterday to look at several programs in benelux or germany that offer dual mba graduation (ie. With partnership with another university or business school)? In my tuition range I found the interesting DBS & EBS program. Any insight on this specific program or any other program of this type ?

Since you are looking in Germany, have you checked this as well ?

http://www.find-mba.com/article/656/mannheim-to-introduce-part-time-mba-program-in-september-2013

They offer an interesting reduction for early bird applications and the format is very similar to the essec-mannheim emba.

<blockquote>I tried yesterday to look at several programs in benelux or germany that offer dual mba graduation (ie. With partnership with another university or business school)? In my tuition range I found the interesting DBS & EBS program. Any insight on this specific program or any other program of this type ?</blockquote>

Since you are looking in Germany, have you checked this as well ?

http://www.find-mba.com/article/656/mannheim-to-introduce-part-time-mba-program-in-september-2013

They offer an interesting reduction for early bird applications and the format is very similar to the essec-mannheim emba.

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EMBA World

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 00:38

According to this website (Find-MBA) there are comments by readers identifying EMBA programs in Europe that have specific concentrations/specializations. Here is the link: http://www.find-mba.com/board/6376. I suggest to take a look at this as it may trigger some thoughts (I suggest Ralph and Nanand1977 do the same). Good luck.

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EMBA World

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 00:41

If you are an engineer, IT, finance, medicine, law, etc., there are EMBAs that have specific tracks to help you focus or strengthen.

No, this isn't really the case. With some exceptions, functional and industry-oriented career tracks are usually only available for full-time MBA programs.

Please, if you don't have any constructive advice to add to this thread, you might want to market your website elsewhere.

Ralph: go to this page and look for the comments by someone named JKLOREN. This person talks about specialized EMBA programs, just FYI in case you want to provide something that is helpful: http://www.find-mba.com/board/6376

<blockquote><blockquote>If you are an engineer, IT, finance, medicine, law, etc., there are EMBAs that have specific tracks to help you focus or strengthen.</blockquote>
No, this isn't really the case. With some exceptions, functional and industry-oriented career tracks are usually only available for full-time MBA programs.

Please, if you don't have any constructive advice to add to this thread, you might want to market your website elsewhere.</blockquote>

Ralph: go to this page and look for the comments by someone named JKLOREN. This person talks about specialized EMBA programs, just FYI in case you want to provide something that is helpful: http://www.find-mba.com/board/6376

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ralph

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 09:01

Ralph: go to this page and look for the comments by someone named JKLOREN. This person talks about specialized EMBA programs, just FYI in case you want to provide something that is helpful: http://www.find-mba.com/board/6376

This person mentions these programs:
Imperial EMBA
IE EMBA
INSEAD EMBA
Trium

None of these programs provide specialization options, as is the case with most other EMBA programs.

Also, none of these programs really fit into the original poster's requirements: something around or under 35k EUR with a strong network in Benelux, UK, and Northern Europe. Imperial could be an option but is too expensive.

<blockquote>Ralph: go to this page and look for the comments by someone named JKLOREN. This person talks about specialized EMBA programs, just FYI in case you want to provide something that is helpful: http://www.find-mba.com/board/6376 </blockquote>
This person mentions these programs:
Imperial EMBA
IE EMBA
INSEAD EMBA
Trium

None of these programs provide specialization options, as is the case with most other EMBA programs.

Also, none of these programs really fit into the original poster's requirements: something around or under 35k EUR with a strong network in Benelux, UK, and Northern Europe. Imperial could be an option but is too expensive.

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cvm

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 11:35

If more money can be put on the table, IMM program (Purdue/Tias/CEU/Gisma) can be an interesting option with a double degree (American and European) option.

http://www.mostinternationalmba.com/

Cvm.

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maubia

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 11:40

If more money can be put on the table, IMM program (Purdue/Tias/CEU/Gisma) can be an interesting option with a double degree (American and European) option.

http://www.mostinternationalmba.com/

Cvm.

Hi, can you tell us why the master climbed out the ranking?

<blockquote>If more money can be put on the table, IMM program (Purdue/Tias/CEU/Gisma) can be an interesting option with a double degree (American and European) option.

http://www.mostinternationalmba.com/

Cvm.</blockquote>

Hi, can you tell us why the master climbed out the ranking?

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cvm

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 13:53

Hi,

I don't know but I remember that in the last years they were there, somewhere between 20th-30th (from top of my head)?

Also, at lower fee, WU/Carlson can provide a double degree American/European.

Regards,

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jerome_tri

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 21:17

Hi,

I don't know but I remember that in the last years they were there, somewhere between 20th-30th (from top of my head)?

Also, at lower fee, WU/Carlson can provide a double degree American/European.

Regards,

Yes ... that's a good suggestion. I've actually always be very tempted by those double US/Europe Accredited programs (inconciously I think most recruiters still associate an MBA program with a US University).
The WU/Carlson together with the Prag/Katz programs seem really interesting actually. A bit above my price limit & also slightly outside my geographic zone, but they both seem to be good programs.

Thanks. That's a good suggestion as I didn't know the WU/Carlson EMBA really well. Which one do you think is actually stronger from an academic and/or reputation standpoint?

<blockquote>Hi,

I don't know but I remember that in the last years they were there, somewhere between 20th-30th (from top of my head)?

Also, at lower fee, WU/Carlson can provide a double degree American/European.

Regards,</blockquote>

Yes ... that's a good suggestion. I've actually always be very tempted by those double US/Europe Accredited programs (inconciously I think most recruiters still associate an MBA program with a US University).
The WU/Carlson together with the Prag/Katz programs seem really interesting actually. A bit above my price limit & also slightly outside my geographic zone, but they both seem to be good programs.

Thanks. That's a good suggestion as I didn't know the WU/Carlson EMBA really well. Which one do you think is actually stronger from an academic and/or reputation standpoint?

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Duncan

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Posted Oct 25, 2012 23:23

WU and Carlson is much stronger.

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cvm

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Posted Oct 26, 2012 10:09

@ jdierickx

Yes, as Duncan has already mentioned the WU/Carlson is stronger.

However, WU itself is a very well perceived school in Center and Eastern Europe. They are running their own EMBA also in Bucharest (where I am located). I have one good friend who graduated this program and another one who is about to do it beginning of next year and myself, I turned them down for another offer. If it helps, below is listed some insight information from Bucharest, together with some comparison with dual one:

Pros:
- academically they are quite strong and demanding, considering that entire program is 14 months long;
- the professors/lecturers in Bucharest are from WU and other good universities (Thunderbird, Harvard, Minnesota, etc);
- I have observed (from different brochures and speaking with them in different MBA fairs) that in the dual program (WU/Carlson), most of the modules (maybe ~70%) are taught exclusively by Carlson's faculty, compared with Bucharest, so there is a big chance to be more American oriented style;
- There are more business trips for the dual one (3 if I remember correctly) in USA/China/India for the dual program, so a good opportunity to experience other cultural environments; For the Bucharest program, there are only 2: 1 in Minnesota and 1 in Vienna.

Cons:

- In Bucharest, both of my friends are complaining about career services which were almost not existent. However, recently, WU started to improve in this direction by arranging meetings with some head hunting agencies for executives.

I don't know if the situation would be similar for the dual program but this is the situation with their program in Romania. Maybe addressing them some pointed questions in this direction would worth if you contact them.

Regards,

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jerome_tri

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Posted Oct 26, 2012 10:24

@ jdierickx

Yes, as Duncan has already mentioned the WU/Carlson is stronger.

However, WU itself is a very well perceived school in Center and Eastern Europe. They are running their own EMBA also in Bucharest (where I am located). I have one good friend who graduated this program and another one who is about to do it beginning of next year and myself, I turned them down for another offer. If it helps, below is listed some insight information from Bucharest, together with some comparison with dual one:

Pros:
- academically they are quite strong and demanding, considering that entire program is 14 months long;
- the professors/lecturers in Bucharest are from WU and other good universities (Thunderbird, Harvard, Minnesota, etc);
- I have observed (from different brochures and speaking with them in different MBA fairs) that in the dual program (WU/Carlson), most of the modules (maybe ~70%) are taught exclusively by Carlson's faculty, compared with Bucharest, so there is a big chance to be more American oriented style;
- There are more business trips for the dual one (3 if I remember correctly) in USA/China/India for the dual program, so a good opportunity to experience other cultural environments; For the Bucharest program, there are only 2: 1 in Minnesota and 1 in Vienna.

Cons:

- In Bucharest, both of my friends are complaining about career services which were almost not existent. However, recently, WU started to improve in this direction by arranging meetings with some head hunting agencies for executives.

I don't know if the situation would be similar for the dual program but this is the situation with their program in Romania. Maybe addressing them some pointed questions in this direction would worth if you contact them.

Regards,

Thanks this is great insight!
How about the quality of the cohorts and experience of the participants? What is the average experience and overall profile (age, years of experience, management level, country of origin etc.)? this remains an executive program after all ...

<blockquote>@ jdierickx

Yes, as Duncan has already mentioned the WU/Carlson is stronger.

However, WU itself is a very well perceived school in Center and Eastern Europe. They are running their own EMBA also in Bucharest (where I am located). I have one good friend who graduated this program and another one who is about to do it beginning of next year and myself, I turned them down for another offer. If it helps, below is listed some insight information from Bucharest, together with some comparison with dual one:

Pros:
- academically they are quite strong and demanding, considering that entire program is 14 months long;
- the professors/lecturers in Bucharest are from WU and other good universities (Thunderbird, Harvard, Minnesota, etc);
- I have observed (from different brochures and speaking with them in different MBA fairs) that in the dual program (WU/Carlson), most of the modules (maybe ~70%) are taught exclusively by Carlson's faculty, compared with Bucharest, so there is a big chance to be more American oriented style;
- There are more business trips for the dual one (3 if I remember correctly) in USA/China/India for the dual program, so a good opportunity to experience other cultural environments; For the Bucharest program, there are only 2: 1 in Minnesota and 1 in Vienna.

Cons:

- In Bucharest, both of my friends are complaining about career services which were almost not existent. However, recently, WU started to improve in this direction by arranging meetings with some head hunting agencies for executives.

I don't know if the situation would be similar for the dual program but this is the situation with their program in Romania. Maybe addressing them some pointed questions in this direction would worth if you contact them.

Regards, </blockquote>

Thanks this is great insight!
How about the quality of the cohorts and experience of the participants? What is the average experience and overall profile (age, years of experience, management level, country of origin etc.)? this remains an executive program after all ...

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cvm

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Posted Oct 26, 2012 10:42

In Bucharest, the average work experience is 11-12 years with no one having less than 7-8. the average age is around 35-36.

The cohorts are around 26-30 persons spanning over different domains (banking, IT, Telecom, FMCG, Energy, Oil and Gas, etc.). Almost all of them are managers and directors in the local branches of some multinational companies or entrepreneurs.

A big part of them (maybe around 50% or slightly more are supported by their companies), but among the others some of them got a tuition reduction between 3K to 15K from a total fee of 35K Euro (business trips excluded).

My personal opinion is that WU's program in Romanian market is the most challenging and rewarding one with the best quality. Of course, there is no other such prestigious university like WU running a MBA program here in Romania but this is another story. We used to have CEU till couple of years ago (which was also very well perceived) but they closed the Bucharest program.

However, I hope it helps even if it is a more local insight info which is not your scope.

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jerome_tri

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Posted Oct 31, 2012 10:07

One other question: among all of those mentioned programs ie. RSM, Vlerick, TiasNimbas, Nyenrode, Louvain, Maastricht, Antwerp, Euro MBA, WU Carlson & Katz Prag - which one would be academically stronger on Finance/Management Accounting? and with the best focus on Finance (and I know executive mba are rather general than with a focus on one specific area)?

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Duncan

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Posted Oct 31, 2012 22:51

What do you mean by academically stronger? The best research will generally be done at schools with large permanent faculty. The most captivating teaching will be done by the more expensive programmes. The widest range of elective will be at the largest schools.

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ezra

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Posted Nov 02, 2012 10:54

One other question: among all of those mentioned programs ie. RSM, Vlerick, TiasNimbas, Nyenrode, Louvain, Maastricht, Antwerp, Euro MBA, WU Carlson & Katz Prag - which one would be academically stronger on Finance/Management Accounting? and with the best focus on Finance (and I know executive mba are rather general than with a focus on one specific area)?

These topics will be closely examined in all the programs - it's just a matter of how.

The residential courses of the EuroMBA, for example, are structured around thematic courses (like "entrepreneurship," or "corporate social responsibility") rather than functional business topics. These will touch on finance and accounting - but the bulk of the functional work will be done in between course modules.

The WU Carlson program is arguably more traditional, and will directly cover topics like managerial accounting and financial management.

Personally, I think the Katz program is pretty interesting - it's curriculum is sort of a mix of the thematic and the functional - and while you cover financial management, accounting, etc., you also delve into everything from business ethics and public policy to global supply chain management.

I'd take a close look at how the courses are structured to get a better sense of the coverage.

<blockquote>One other question: among all of those mentioned programs ie. RSM, Vlerick, TiasNimbas, Nyenrode, Louvain, Maastricht, Antwerp, Euro MBA, WU Carlson & Katz Prag - which one would be academically stronger on Finance/Management Accounting? and with the best focus on Finance (and I know executive mba are rather general than with a focus on one specific area)?</blockquote>
These topics will be closely examined in all the programs - it's just a matter of how.

The residential courses of the EuroMBA, for example, are structured around thematic courses (like "entrepreneurship," or "corporate social responsibility") rather than functional business topics. These will touch on finance and accounting - but the bulk of the functional work will be done in between course modules.

The WU Carlson program is arguably more traditional, and will directly cover topics like managerial accounting and financial management.

Personally, I think the Katz program is pretty interesting - it's curriculum is sort of a mix of the thematic and the functional - and while you cover financial management, accounting, etc., you also delve into everything from business ethics and public policy to global supply chain management.

I'd take a close look at how the courses are structured to get a better sense of the coverage.

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jerome_tri

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Posted Nov 06, 2012 18:46

What do you mean by academically stronger? The best research will generally be done at schools with large permanent faculty. The most captivating teaching will be done by the more expensive programmes. The widest range of elective will be at the largest schools.

That's good points ... I believe captivating is what I mean. I simply want to get the most out of those courses - can also mean that this underlies the best research.
In the end, my goal is really to be able to taylor this mba and make it as finance centric as possible. Eg. Warwick would allow me to choose 6 elective modules that I can all make finance/controlling specific (the choice of electives is really wide) ... from my research I have not seen that level of flexibility into those schools.

<blockquote>What do you mean by academically stronger? The best research will generally be done at schools with large permanent faculty. The most captivating teaching will be done by the more expensive programmes. The widest range of elective will be at the largest schools.</blockquote>

That's good points ... I believe captivating is what I mean. I simply want to get the most out of those courses - can also mean that this underlies the best research.
In the end, my goal is really to be able to taylor this mba and make it as finance centric as possible. Eg. Warwick would allow me to choose 6 elective modules that I can all make finance/controlling specific (the choice of electives is really wide) ... from my research I have not seen that level of flexibility into those schools.

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