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Posted May 09, 2020 21:36

I am looking for an MBA in Northern / Central / Eastern Europe with a Spring start date. Due to my current work full-time and all of the Covid19 mess, a Fall (September) 2020 admission is going to be a long shot for me. However I am not wanting to push my start date until fall 2021. Does anyone know of some decent and relatively inexpensive programs with Spring 2021 start dates?

I am currently looking at programs in the Baltics and Central Europe (CZ, Poland, etc)

Any help would be much appreciated -

Drew
I am looking for an MBA in Northern / Central / Eastern Europe with a Spring start date. Due to my current work full-time and all of the Covid19 mess, a Fall (September) 2020 admission is going to be a long shot for me. However I am not wanting to push my start date until fall 2021. Does anyone know of some decent and relatively inexpensive programs with Spring 2021 start dates?

I am currently looking at programs in the Baltics and Central Europe (CZ, Poland, etc)

Any help would be much appreciated -

Drew
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Posted May 10, 2020 17:30

ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of. 
ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of. 
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Posted May 10, 2020 18:27

ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of. 

Thanks for the response Duncan, in terms of international accreditation - to what degree does that matter? For some context if I was to get my MBA in the States (live in Texas) it would be TCUs MBA in Energy from the Neeley School of Business. Respected, and expensive, but not Tier I. I am really looking for a mid-level serviceable MBA that could open some doors to work internationally. Thanks. 

[Edited by LandCruiser on May 10, 2020]

[quote]ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the response Duncan, in terms of international accreditation - to what degree does that matter? For some context if I was to get my MBA in the States (live in Texas) it would be TCUs MBA in Energy from the Neeley School of Business. Respected, and expensive, but not Tier I. I am really looking for a mid-level serviceable MBA that could open some doors to work internationally. Thanks.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 10, 2020 18:28

ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of. 

As for the reason for Northern / Central / Eastern Europe, I have a lot of friends and contacts in the Baltics / parts of Scandinavia and would like to end up there. 
[quote]ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>As for the reason for Northern / Central / Eastern Europe, I have a lot of friends and contacts in the Baltics / parts of Scandinavia and would like to end up there.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 11, 2020 15:52

Copenhagen Business School should be on your radar for Scandinavia. In that part of the world an part-time/ executive MBA is the preferred method of delivery than Full-Time.
Otherwise Stockholm School of Economics, Norwegian, Aalto, NNH are known schools in the region for various MSc programs targeting people with 0-1 years of experience.
Copenhagen Business School should be on your radar for Scandinavia. In that part of the world an part-time/ executive MBA is the preferred method of delivery than Full-Time.<div><br></div><div>Otherwise Stockholm School of Economics, Norwegian, Aalto, NNH are known schools in the region for various MSc programs targeting people with 0-1 years of experience.</div>
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Posted May 11, 2020 16:13

Spring start though.... 
Spring start though....&nbsp;
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Posted May 12, 2020 19:41

ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of. 

As for the reason for Northern / Central / Eastern Europe, I have a lot of friends and contacts in the Baltics / parts of Scandinavia and would like to end up there. 
You should read Duncan's post on speaking local languages:
https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546
[quote][quote]ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>As for the reason for Northern / Central / Eastern Europe, I have a lot of friends and contacts in the Baltics / parts of Scandinavia and would like to end up there.&nbsp;</div> [/quote]<div>You should read Duncan's post on speaking local languages:</div><div><br></div><div>https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546</div>
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Posted May 13, 2020 18:51

ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of. 

As for the reason for Northern / Central / Eastern Europe, I have a lot of friends and contacts in the Baltics / parts of Scandinavia and would like to end up there. 
You should read Duncan's post on speaking local languages:
https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546

Thank you for that post, definitely really helpful and something I have thought of - but not made a priority. 
I can read, write, and speak Russian at a casual conversational level (2 years in college and a semester abroad in SPB) - however to get anywhere close to working level would require at least 2 more years of intensive study. I will keep that in mind for sure.I believe it would be much easier to learn Swedish or Norwegian however, even with my solid foundation in Russian. I will need to give that some thought. 
Still trying to find a decent mid tier Spring start. I had looked into Vilnius Uni, however they only have fall start as well. 
[quote][quote][quote]ESMT is the only internationally-accredited option I am aware of.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>As for the reason for Northern / Central / Eastern Europe, I have a lot of friends and contacts in the Baltics / parts of Scandinavia and would like to end up there.&nbsp;</div> [/quote]<div>You should read Duncan's post on speaking local languages:</div><div><br></div><div>https://find-mba.com/board/europe/do-you-need-to-speak-the-local-language-29546</div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Thank you for that post, definitely really helpful and something I have thought of - but not made a priority.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I can read, write, and speak Russian at a casual conversational level (2 years in college and a semester abroad in SPB) - however to get anywhere close to working level would require at least 2 more years of intensive study. I will keep that in mind for sure.I believe it would be much easier to learn Swedish or Norwegian however, even with my solid foundation in Russian. I will need to give that some thought.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Still trying to find a decent mid tier Spring start. I had looked into Vilnius Uni, however they only have fall start as well.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 13, 2020 20:11

Why not look at the HEC or SSE EMBAs in St Petersburg alongside a language course? 
Why not look at the HEC or SSE EMBAs in St Petersburg alongside a language course?&nbsp;
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Posted May 13, 2020 21:03

Why not look at the HEC or SSE EMBAs in St Petersburg alongside a language course? 

Thank you Duncan, looking into those now. 
Are there any other programs in SPB or Moscow I should be aware of? 
Note: My undergrad grades were average, and my quant scores are never great. Not looking for something overly mathematical. Would prefer more practical application or solid all around program. Thanks for all the help. 
[quote]Why not look at the HEC or SSE EMBAs in St Petersburg alongside a language course?&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Thank you Duncan, looking into those now.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Are there any other programs in SPB or Moscow I should be aware of?&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Note: My undergrad grades were average, and my quant scores are never great. Not looking for something overly mathematical. Would prefer more practical application or solid all around program. Thanks for all the help.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 13, 2020 21:48

I'm not sure enough of your goals. My gut feeling is that you need a language course not an MBA. 
I'm not sure enough of your goals. My gut feeling is that you need a language course not an MBA.&nbsp;
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Posted May 13, 2020 22:18

I'm not sure enough of your goals. My gut feeling is that you need a language course not an MBA. 

Hahah that very well could be the case. I am really looking to work overseas, whether for a US based company or otherwise. I am in an upper management level role here in the US (60-70 employees under me currently) at a publicly traded company, but it is still difficult to find a way in overseas. My companies international arm is based in China, and I have no desire to work there unfortunately. 
So ideally the goal is to get a solid (not top tier $$) MBA in Europe and continue networking / find employment abroad during the program in my preferred industry. (Oil / gas / energy) 
Hope that helps clarify things, I know its difficult helping a stranger. Haha. 
[quote]I'm not sure enough of your goals. My gut feeling is that you need a language course not an MBA.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Hahah that very well could be the case. I am really looking to work overseas, whether for a US based company or otherwise. I am in an upper management level role here in the US (60-70 employees under me currently) at a publicly traded company, but it is still difficult to find a way in overseas. My companies international arm is based in China, and I have no desire to work there unfortunately.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>So ideally the goal is to get a solid (not top tier $$) MBA in Europe and continue networking / find employment abroad during the program in my preferred industry. (Oil / gas / energy)&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Hope that helps clarify things, I know its difficult helping a stranger. Haha.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 14, 2020 09:19

I just don't see how a no-name MBA, with no real network, helps you with those goals. 
I just don't see how a no-name MBA, with no real network, helps you with those goals.&nbsp;
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Posted May 14, 2020 15:31

I just don't see how a no-name MBA, with no real network, helps you with those goals. 

Fair enough. Might need to go back to the drawing board. 
Any feedback on the MBA within the SEB at Uni of Ljubljana? Seems like a good program on paper with some interesting concepts. 
[quote]I just don't see how a no-name MBA, with no real network, helps you with those goals.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Fair enough. Might need to go back to the drawing board.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Any feedback on the MBA within the SEB at Uni of Ljubljana? Seems like a good program on paper with some interesting concepts.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 14, 2020 15:46

"No-name" sound a bit harsh, but Europe has profoundly national labour markets and the MBA is not well understood in the markets where it is new. If you want to work in Slovenia, take an intensive Slovenian course rather than an MBA. If you want a classic MBA role with a traditional MBA recruiter, go to an excellent school. MBAs are designed for both 'poets' and 'quants' and an excellent MBA will hold your hand through the math, so there's no need to avoid one. 
You can use mastersportal.com to find an MSc program. Perhaps that is a better option if you want a full-time course. 
"No-name" sound a bit harsh, but Europe has profoundly national labour markets and the MBA is not well understood in the markets where it is new. If you want to work in&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Slovenia, take an intensive&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Slovenian course rather than an MBA.&nbsp;If you want a classic MBA role with a traditional MBA recruiter, go to an excellent school. MBAs are designed for both 'poets' and 'quants' and an excellent MBA will hold your hand through the math, so there's no need to avoid one.&nbsp;</span><div><span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;">You can use mastersportal.com to find an MSc program. Perhaps that is a better option if you want a full-time course.&nbsp;</span></div>
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Posted May 14, 2020 16:32

"No-name" sound a bit harsh, but Europe has profoundly national labour markets and the MBA is not well understood in the markets where it is new. If you want to work in Slovenia, take an intensive Slovenian course rather than an MBA. If you want a classic MBA role with a traditional MBA recruiter, go to an excellent school. MBAs are designed for both 'poets' and 'quants' and an excellent MBA will hold your hand through the math, so there's no need to avoid one. 
You can use mastersportal.com to find an MSc program. Perhaps that is a better option if you want a full-time course. 

Thanks for the feedback. I have a significant number of colleagues who have done upper-tier MBAs here in the states (Wharton / McCombs UTexas, SMU Cox, etc) and a few of them have said that even with a BS the math was rough in parts. I certainly would not want a quant focused program, to your point of poets and quants. 
Really good feedback, I will see what I can come up with. At the end of the day, not overly worried about where I get the MBA as I will apply with companies in my industry in Europe, and if there is no mutual interest I can simply come back to the US with a solid MBA in hand. 
[quote]"No-name" sound a bit harsh, but Europe has profoundly national labour markets and the MBA is not well understood in the markets where it is new. If you want to work in&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Slovenia, take an intensive&nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Slovenian course rather than an MBA.&nbsp;If you want a classic MBA role with a traditional MBA recruiter, go to an excellent school. MBAs are designed for both 'poets' and 'quants' and an excellent MBA will hold your hand through the math, so there's no need to avoid one.&nbsp;</span><div><span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(77, 81, 86); font-family: arial, sans-serif;">You can use mastersportal.com to find an MSc program. Perhaps that is a better option if you want a full-time course.&nbsp;</span></div> [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the feedback. I have a significant number of colleagues who have done upper-tier MBAs here in the states (Wharton / McCombs UTexas, SMU Cox, etc) and a few of them have said that even with a BS the math was rough in parts. I certainly would not want a quant focused program, to your point of poets and quants.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Really good feedback, I will see what I can come up with. At the end of the day, not overly worried about where I get the MBA as I will apply with companies in my industry in Europe, and if there is no mutual interest I can simply come back to the US with a solid MBA in hand.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 14, 2020 18:20

If you want to come back to the US then a school with AACSB accreditation will be really helpful. 
If you want to come back to the US then a school with AACSB accreditation will be really helpful.&nbsp;
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Posted May 14, 2020 19:31

If you want to come back to the US then a school with AACSB accreditation will be really helpful. 

Thanks for that, is there any real difference to employers in the US or Europe between the AACSB and the ACBSP? Or any other accreditation for that matter? It seems like most decent programs are certified by one or the other at least. 
[quote]If you want to come back to the US then a school with AACSB accreditation will be really helpful.&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Thanks for that, is there any real difference to employers in the US or Europe between the AACSB and the ACBSP? Or any other accreditation for that matter? It seems like most decent programs are certified by one or the other at least.&nbsp;</div>
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Posted May 14, 2020 19:45

There are no excellent MBAs in Europe that are not accredited by AACSB. I can't think of any excellent MBAs that are accredited by ACBSP. So, it's a good sign of quality. Would you rather have the same accreditation as Harvard, or as University of Phoenix? 
There are no excellent MBAs in Europe that are not accredited by AACSB. I can't think of any excellent MBAs that are accredited by ACBSP. So, it's a good sign of quality. Would you rather have the same accreditation as Harvard, or as&nbsp;University of Phoenix?&nbsp;
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Posted May 14, 2020 19:58

There are no excellent MBAs in Europe that are not accredited by AACSB. I can't think of any excellent MBAs that are accredited by ACBSP. So, it's a good sign of quality. Would you rather have the same accreditation as Harvard, or as University of Phoenix? 

Makes sense, I will focus on the AACSB accreditation. Thanks for all the help here. You all have been an invaluable resource in this search. I will follow up with any questions once the application process begins. 
[quote]There are no excellent MBAs in Europe that are not accredited by AACSB. I can't think of any excellent MBAs that are accredited by ACBSP. So, it's a good sign of quality. Would you rather have the same accreditation as Harvard, or as&nbsp;University of Phoenix?&nbsp; [/quote]<div><br></div><div>Makes sense, I will focus on the AACSB accreditation. Thanks for all the help here. You all have been an invaluable resource in this search. I will follow up with any questions once the application process begins.&nbsp;</div>
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