New Germany Business School Ranking

ezra

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Posted Jul 10, 2014 15:39

Hey all,

Just thought I'd share this, I saw a recent issue of the German magazine "Wirtschafts Woche" where there was a top-10 business school ranking included. Here are the schools that are ranked, not all of them offer MBA programs:

1. Mannheim
2. München - LMU
3. Köln
4. WHU
5. Münster
5. Frankfurt am Main
7. Hohenheim
7. Östrich-Winkel (EBS)
9. ESCP Europe
9. Berlin HU
9. Frankfurt School of Finance and Management
9. HHL Leipzig

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Inactive User

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Posted Jul 11, 2014 11:47

It's interesting that ESMT doesn't show up on this list, considering it's one of only two German business schools ranked in the FT Global Rankings.

I wonder if that means that ESMT has carries more weight internationally rather than locally?

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Duncan

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Posted Jul 11, 2014 19:53

Unlike the schools in this list, ESMT does not offer a masters programme in German. I'd be surprised if Wirtschaftswoche included such a small school: it doesn't help sell magazines.

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naked

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Posted Jul 13, 2014 20:08

Thanks for providing this ranking. However, what everyone should take into account when looking at this ranking is the methodology behind it. WiWo asked HR representatives from many companies (big ones as well as SMEs) what schools come to their minds. This (at least partly) explains that well-known public schools with a lot of graduates (Mannheim, Münster, München, Köln) perform better than small (private) schools that are not as old (ESCP, ESMT, FSFM, HHL).

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Sammy3266

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Posted Jul 18, 2014 11:55

Well, Frankfurt School of Finance made it to the list, and the're pretty small and not super old. So the ranking doesn't seem impossible for smaller private schools to get into!

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naked

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Posted Jul 21, 2014 13:54

Well, Frankfurt School of Finance made it to the list, and the're pretty small and not super old. So the ranking doesn't seem impossible for smaller private schools to get into!

I never said that it is impossible for them. It is, however, much more difficult for smaller and younger schools to quickly move up the ranking and this is exactly what you can see in the current ranking. If you asked only the big companies that everybody wants to work for (the big consulting firms and ibanks, big industry players like BMW and BASF), the result would be different in the sense that WHU, HHL and FSFM would be higher up in the ranking.

<blockquote>Well, Frankfurt School of Finance made it to the list, and the're pretty small and not super old. So the ranking doesn't seem impossible for smaller private schools to get into! </blockquote>

I never said that it is impossible for them. It is, however, much more difficult for smaller and younger schools to quickly move up the ranking and this is exactly what you can see in the current ranking. If you asked only the big companies that everybody wants to work for (the big consulting firms and ibanks, big industry players like BMW and BASF), the result would be different in the sense that WHU, HHL and FSFM would be higher up in the ranking.

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badux

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Posted Jul 30, 2014 15:45

Sometimes I really want to know if ESMT has the local reputation because more than 90% of it's full-time students are non-German. Did they did this in purpose or they are just not that attractive to German applicants compared to its local competitors?

It's hard to say, since cohorts at this school are generally pretty small. I think that it's gaining in the rankings because international use it fairly effectively to transition to Germany or to Europe more broadly. Even though the cohorts are 90% non-German, the career report shows that 80% of the 2013 cohort stayed in Europe.

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Sometimes I really want to know if ESMT has the local reputation because more than 90% of it's full-time students are non-German. Did they did this in purpose or they are just not that attractive to German applicants compared to its local competitors?</blockquote>
It's hard to say, since cohorts at this school are generally pretty small. I think that it's gaining in the rankings because international use it fairly effectively to transition to Germany or to Europe more broadly. Even though the cohorts are 90% non-German, the career report shows that 80% of the 2013 cohort stayed in Europe.

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gareth w

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Posted Jul 31, 2014 15:22

Glad to see WHU featured in this list. I'm applying for the MBA there to start next year.

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vinayakmod...

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Posted Aug 11, 2014 15:05

While selecting between the toe EBS and HHL which would give better option for moving to Germany for a non-native.

EBS talks of 16 month program focusing on language skills and cultural acquaintance while HHL has good institutes near by to learn German along with 15 month option.

Please suggest.

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Duncan

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Posted Aug 11, 2014 19:15

The Frankfurt School for Finance is also 60 years old; the person who says it's new is mistaken. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_of_Finance_%26_Management

PS The point isn't that ESMt is excluded -- it's just a tiny school, with few alumni. Of course they will include a school with 5,000 students a year over one more or less one percent the size.

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ezra

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Posted Aug 12, 2014 10:38

While selecting between the toe EBS and HHL which would give better option for moving to Germany for a non-native.

EBS talks of 16 month program focusing on language skills and cultural acquaintance while HHL has good institutes near by to learn German along with 15 month option.

Please suggest.

I would ask the schools directly for statistics on how many non-natives end up staying in the country after graduation.

Also, if you don't have a German foundation, it would be exceedingly hard to attain fluency in 16 months while also doing an MBA.

<blockquote>While selecting between the toe EBS and HHL which would give better option for moving to Germany for a non-native.

EBS talks of 16 month program focusing on language skills and cultural acquaintance while HHL has good institutes near by to learn German along with 15 month option.

Please suggest.</blockquote>
I would ask the schools directly for statistics on how many non-natives end up staying in the country after graduation.

Also, if you don't have a German foundation, it would be exceedingly hard to attain fluency in 16 months while also doing an MBA.

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